Underrated movie sequels?

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  1. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Guy

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    I liked Halloween 3.

    *hides*



    Dan
     
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  2. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Agree to disagree. I think the movie's superficial and just an attempt to let the loser from the 1960s be a big-time 80s WINNER!

    Not sure what "Top Gun" and "Days" have to do with it other than being Cruise movies.

    They don't pretend to be anything more than cartoons, whereas "CoM" ostensibly is a "serious drama".

    Like I said, I've gone the other direction with "CoM". Liked it a lot 35 years ago but now think it's just another rah-rah 80s movie. :shrug:
     
  3. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    That one seems to have become a cult fave of sorts.

    Which I admit I don't get. :shrug:
     
  4. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Guy

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    I think, for me, it was unexpected. They tried something different, and it at least succeeded on that level. Granted, I saw it almost 40 years ago!


    Dan
     
  5. SmallDarkCloud

    SmallDarkCloud Forum Resident

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    Season of the Witch is a great movie! I've been lucky to see it in a theater twice (both Alamo Drafthouse revival screenings). That's along with many, many, viewings at home.
     
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  6. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    I saw it back then as well and then not again until a couple years ago.

    I thought it had the bones of a good movie but the execution wasn't there:

    Halloween III: Season of the Witch - Collector's Edition [Blu-Ray] (1982)
     
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  7. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Guy

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    Don't get me wrong, I didn't think it was On The Waterfront, but even back then, I was tired of brain-dead sequels. I thought it took brass balls for them to attempt something different, which they did, and if not unassailable, it was refreshing.


    Dan
     
  8. onlysleeping

    onlysleeping Forum Resident

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    Ghostbusters 2. No, it's not as good as 1, but it is still funny.
     
  9. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    I think the biggest issue people had with it was that it wasn't an actual sequel.

    It was more a spinoff, an unrelated movie with the "Halloween" name slapped onto it.

    Which wasn't a terrible idea - at least not if the series had been set up that way.

    For instance, "American Horror Story" has different characters/etc. every time - at least I think it does, as I never watched it.

    But "Halloween" existed as its own movie in 1978 and then came with a direct sequel 3 years later, so fans expected "Season of the Witch" to be a continuation.

    It almost certainly would've been better received if not sold as a "Halloween" movie.
     
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  10. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    I think the consensus on "GB2" follows those lines: it's still watchable/entertaining but not nearly as strong as the first movie.

    I think it's correctly rated in that regard! :)
     
  11. kevywevy

    kevywevy Forum Resident

    Yep. I saw Halloween 3 at the drive in with a car full of teenage guys expecting Michael Myers mayhem and instead we got . . . that. The advertising used the same music and candlelit pumpkin from the first two movies. There was no indication whatsoever that this movie had nothing to do with the first two. I can't recall the ending which leads me to believe that we said screw it and left early. It was borderline fraud, imo. Classic bait and switch. I might have enjoyed it if I knew going in that it wasn't a Michael Myers movie.
     
  12. MekkaGodzilla

    MekkaGodzilla Forum Resident

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    Leonard Part 2
     
  13. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    I can't find any "H3" trailers that went the path you describe.

    "Halloween II" did, but the "H3" trailers I found didn't use the Carpenter music or a candlelit pumpkin. :shrug:

     
  14. kevywevy

    kevywevy Forum Resident

    It was forty years ago and I was almost certainly drunk and/or high at the time. It's possible that my memory is wrong.
     
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  15. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Ha ha! Good explanation! :D
     
  16. omikron

    omikron Avid contributor to Paul McCartney's bank account

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    To be honest, I don't think any sequel mentioned so far is underrated as they are not as good as the originals and thus are held right where they are esteemed to be.

    Any sequel that is considered to be better, typically isn't going to be considered 'underrated'. An extreme example, Star Trek The Motion Picture and Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan.



    I'll toss one out that I am not sure it is "underrated" but I don't think it gets talked about much and probably gets a little ignored over the huge original. I for one enjoy it as much or more than the first: Beverly Hills Cop II.

    Another one maybe since the first one is SO iconic the rest might get swept under the rug a bit is Superman II. That's another I enjoy a great deal.
     
  17. Hexwood

    Hexwood Forum Resident

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    The Evening Star
    Another Stakeout
    Scream 3
     
  18. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    "Hellraiser II: Hellbound"
    &
    "Babe: Pig In The City"
     
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  19. Monosterio

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    I agree, and I'll add that for me Will Ferrell was funnier in the second one. (Steve Carell, however, was not. I don't think he's ever been funnier than in the first Anchorman.)
     
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  20. unclefred

    unclefred Coastie with the Moastie

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    Check out the trailer for the new re-imagining of Hellraiser, if you enjoyed those two.
     
  21. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    It's like if Pinhead & the cenobite with the tracheotomy, and the hooks had a baby!
     
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  22. Hexwood

    Hexwood Forum Resident

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    No need to hide. It's a solid 1980s horror/sci-fi film. It's a shame people dislike it because it doesn't star Michael Myers. Looking back, the makers shouldn't have called it Halloween III, just Season of the Witch.
     
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  23. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed (a Hammer film) is one
    of the best movies ever made in England, easily the best
    film of 1969 (I never liked Midnight Cowboy or Easy Rider)
    and Peter Cushing delivers not only the deepest richest most
    complex performance of his career but he was easily the best
    actor of the year and should have been nominated and won
    the BAFTA. Intellectually and dramatically this film
    surpasses the average sequel / follow up at light speed.

    So, there.

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  24. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I agree it should not have been titled Halloween III, but Season of
    the Witch although a very good title for a film about witchcraft
    isn't appropriate for this film, either. They don't have an accurate
    title for this admittedly excellent film.

    I like Carptenter's idea of making a non-series Halloween-themed
    movie once a year under the banner title, but it just didn't work.
     
  25. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Guy

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    I quite agree.


    Dan
     

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