'Tone Poet' Jazz Reissue Series*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by cds23, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. PATB

    PATB Recovering Vinyl Junkie

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    This guy on you tube claims that ETC and NHS of the Tone Poet series have a digital sounding treble because they are digital transfers. I thought these are AAA releases?

     
  2. ausgraeme

    ausgraeme Forum Resident

    That guy is a crank. Every video of his I’ve ever seen spends more time complaining about reissues (especially Music Matters) than talking about jazz.
     
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  3. MondoFanM

    MondoFanM Member from ATX

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  4. Briskit

    Briskit “I don’t know karate, but I know ka-razy!”

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    Evidence this man is an Ass-clown:
    1.) He thinks the original LT series covers are "cool".
    2.) He keeps crapping on about how he reviewed these on his super high end system, which includes a Schiit Ragnarok. Schiit make great stuff, but I don't think even they think of themselves as top of the line.
    3.) He thinks Joe Harley did the Engineering.
    4.) He is shocked that Tone Poet ETC sounds similar to 198o original, when Music Matters reissues are very different to originals. Moanin by Art Blakey originally pressed in 1958 sounds very different when cut for playback on modern systems in 2014. Go figure.
     
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  5. They most certainly are AAA releases. I believ Joe confirmed all but State of the Tenor are AAA.

    I wonder if that is why the video is already deleted from youtube?

    This guy's a joke
     
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  6. magnet

    magnet Forum Resident

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    no video, no laugh :)
     
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  7. Elofan

    Elofan Forum Resident

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    Where is he gone?! Sometimes i like to watch those ....
     
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  8. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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    Do you AD users only use the official AD fluid or can one mix their own concoction (e.g. Audio Intelligent One-Step)?

    I'm going to start a thread about this today, so we stop going OT with it.
     
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  9. dastinger

    dastinger Forum Resident

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    @Josquin des Prez Please link it here afterwards. I'm really enjoying reading the discussion even though I don't have much to add, but it's easy to get lost on these forums.
     
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  10. Joe Harley

    Joe Harley Senior Member

    Where on earth he'd get that idea is beyond me. They are analog all the way. Kevin's rig is detailed here: Cohearent |
     
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  11. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Interesting, Joe, that a misunderstanding or inaccuracy can potentially get inflated (and I can occasionally be guilty of that). It's good that you can chime in here and correct something like that.
     
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  12. Elofan

    Elofan Forum Resident

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    Thank you for all these wonderfull and affordable alternatives on vinyl! And some people that living in a youtube world should be politely ignored....
     
  13. dastinger

    dastinger Forum Resident

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    I'm sorry Joe, but we're not dumb. I clearly see two computer screens on that picture!!! :laugh:
     
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  14. scotti

    scotti Forum Resident

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    Those above posts about these being digital sure put a smile on my face, I needed a Monday afternoon chuckle...

    Good news, my local shop informed me last Friday that they have the Sam Rivers - Contours title physically in stock and is in their cart confirmed for street date for me if not a day before...very happy!
     
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  15. Lucca90

    Lucca90 Forum Resident

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    Corrected version.
     
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  16. p.analogowy

    p.analogowy Forum Resident

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  17. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Well, that is better. Good for him for acknowledging an error and quickly correcting it.
     
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  18. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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    I'm still too lazy and impatient to watch videos, so I get to miss out on all that silliness. When I read I skim things quickly to avoid wasting time on the fluff. It's a technique I had to learn when I studied historiography as an undergrad history minor.
     
  19. Joe Harley

    Joe Harley Senior Member

    Etcetera was recorded in 1965, not 1966.
     
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  20. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Here comes another corrected video. ;)
     
  21. Mugrug12

    Mugrug12 The Jungle Is a Skyscraper

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    Re the video and the solid state label- dunno how it was recorded or mastered but for any sleuths my orignal has bell sound in the runout...

    Edit- the Corea album I mean
     
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  22. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Well, I sent Harry Weisfeld an email about this (and other things). He's on his back next a pool in a warm weather destination (Lucky him. We got a foot of snow dumped in our area this morning.). But he told me to look at the VPI forum under Harry's Corner in the Record Cleaning thread. I'm perusing the last several pages. I'm surmising that the common agreement is that US cleaners are great for garage sales finds, doing wonders getting embedded gunk off the record that has adhered over time. But that there's still an issue with the high frequencies getting rolled off, and that most are using good liquid cleaners (w/distilled or RMO water) and a vacuum record cleaning machine.

    I'll keep looking in the forum, and when Harry's back from his vacation, I'll ask him about it to get more detail from him personally. But here is the forum, several pages from the last one so you can read for yourself:

    vpiforum.com • View topic - Record cleaning
     
  23. Joe Harley

    Joe Harley Senior Member

    My original had that as well. It means it was mastered at Bell Sound. It was recorded at A&R by Don Hahn.
     
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  24. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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    Thanks, but I'm buying the AD anyway. I'll leave it to you to follow the thread there. I think if there were problems with the high end rolling off from cleaning my dealer and their customers would have noticed by now on their 6-figure systems. Otherwise, maybe my 60 year old ears won't notice. I haven't heard anything suspcious so far. In fact, some records have come out sounding better and with more clarity at the high end. :)
     
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  25. Mugrug12

    Mugrug12 The Jungle Is a Skyscraper

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    Cool Yes. There was a comment above about whether it was originally recorded and mastered with tubes or solid state. The post is not there anymore I guess it was deleted...
     

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