Van Der Graaf Generator coming in 5.1

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by R E Faust, Apr 19, 2021.

  1. Slim Zooms

    Slim Zooms Senior Member

    It goes with the territory :D
     
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  2. Lighthouse

    Lighthouse Forum Resident

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    But according to Phil Smart's live list not performing, but only miming.
    Which reminds that I haven't checked the Wondering promo vid yet. Anybody did it, and can say if this also is just miming? The runtime of the Vid is the same as the album version, but the actual single faded the song a few seconds earlier. And the short version of Meurglys III (named here Part One) was the single's b-side
     
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  3. Lovecraft

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    Not sure if many promo videos are live performances. Kind of defeats the point of a promo video really.
     
  4. Jim C

    Jim C Forum Resident

    I was wondering about that. I’d heard that Burning Shed sold out and that Amazon only had a few left about a week ago. The sales rank on Amazon UK for the box has been very impressive for a while, often placing in the overall top 100, and top 10 / 20 for box sets. And I’ve heard from a couple “in the know” people that Universal is very pleased with sales so far. I wondered if there was any chance in heck that this thing could make a showing in the actual charts. I did look but I looked at “compilations” — was this midweek showing just the regular top 100? Even though it dropped out by end-of-week, that’s still impressive for a very expensive box set to dip into the top 50 of the national charts!
     
  5. alakulju

    alakulju Music is the best! - FZ

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    I remember that a couple of years ago the Gentle Giant box sold out and they had to print another batch to sell.
    Some people on this forum were even p****d off that their precious box was not so limited and exclusive as advertised in the first place.
    Glad to see that there is still a market for these bands that were never in the first row of prog celebrities:righton:
     
  6. Slim Zooms

    Slim Zooms Senior Member

    It’s great and very refreshing!

    Now please give us a companion box of Hammill’s solo works from the Charisma era. :agree:
     
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  7. Norco74

    Norco74 For the good and the not so good…

    Unless someone wants to cash in on Discogs’ or ‘Ebay’, I am not clear why people would be outraged by a box reprint as music is a shared experience. IIRC this box advertising wasn’t mentioning any specific quantity so I am taking it as it is available for a limited time.

    One way or another, the labels will eventually find a way to re-release any box content.
     
  8. jblock

    jblock Senior Member

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    The box is currently $146.95 on Amazon US, shipping from Amazon UK. A true bargain!
     
  9. kendo

    kendo Forum Resident

    Is "The Least We Can Do... " getting a stand alone release? I've got the Pawn Hearts, H to He and Still Life with Godbluff to come yet but can't seem to be able to order the first I mentioned.
     
  10. riskylogic

    riskylogic Forum Resident

    Only the four with a 5.1 got stand alone releases.
     
  11. stephenwtayler

    stephenwtayler Forum Resident

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    Indeed - there was no possibility to create a new stereo mix as well as the 5.1 mix for 'The Least We Can Do..." so I imagine it wasn't worth a reissue with just the remaster....
     
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  12. ArpMoog

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    That's a crime the other three didn't get a release if even for the remaster and tacked on corresponding material. Maybe
    Sales may see disc sets for those in a two disc set.
    Hoping sales gives the label confidence to do a Hammill box.
    A lot of Hopeium going on here. :)
     
  13. stephenwtayler

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    I don't actually know for a fact, but I imagine that it all has to be commercially viable - in an ideal world it would be wonderful for every physical format to be made available - but I guess that is why particular specific collections are created.

    I personally believe in creating and presenting the overall complete album/project listening experience that is particularly relevant in the physical releases - rather than the rather bitty and separated ways of listening in the streaming and download worlds - but it all has to be appropriate and available for the current world!

    Anyway - once again I hope you all enjoy what is going on here - this is a lifelong passion.

    So now for me - back on my head - some classic and also new projects awaiting release - and just starting another major back catalogue set.........
     
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  14. RonChrysler

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    I'm one of those people who signed up for the reprint of the Giant box. I am so glad they did that, because I was in no position financially to spring for the box on the first go-around, but had things sorted out so I could get the second printing. As a GG obsessive, I'd have deeply regretted missing out on it. Man, what a nice collection. Some might disagree, but I think it's essential.
    I'm of a similar mind about this VdGG box. Totally worth the wait.
     
  15. I'm confused - I ordered two of the standalone sets from Amazon.ca and then received a notice from the vendor stating that the DVDs were region 2 and would not play here. I actually can play region 2 but it's a pain so I cancelled.
    Are these available in region 1 or Blu-ray in North America? I'd love to get the 5.1 .
     
  16. ArpMoog

    ArpMoog Forum Resident

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    I bought the box just thinking out loud for those that didn't. Will you be able to code us in if Hammill gets a go or are you sworn to secrecy untill it's official ?
     
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  17. Phillipe

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    A major VDDG set was a no-brainer for me, even tho' I may not even need it. If I don't buy it, WHO would?
    Support.
     
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  18. Lighthouse

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    But from The Least We Can Do an alternate mix exists, the so called Shel Talmy mix which accidentally was released on LP at first. Was it never considered to put this mix on the box too?

    LPs of the mix are still in the hand of fans, but I don't know of course if the master tape is still there, when the multi tapes aren't.
     
  19. jcarr73729

    jcarr73729 Forum Resident

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    Quote by PH from 'Van Der Graaf Generator, The Book', "The band hated it! I never heard it". I'm sure there are others who have studied the differences, but other than the narrowed stereo soundstage, the only obvious difference appears to be the mix of 'Darkness', bringing the vocals of PH to the centre. The version I have was kindly sent to me by a member on here, it's a good recording off the vinyl press, however it lacks the sound quality of the boxed set CD, and details may be slightly buried in the recording off the vinyl. Bands get very annoyed when record labels remix or edit songs without their consent. If the stereo master tapes still exist, it's anyone's guess whether it would have been included.
     
  20. Grower of Mushrooms

    Grower of Mushrooms Omnivorous mammalian bipedal entity.

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    I must have missed that news item that the World Health Organisation are investing in this box set.

    Interesting that they believe Hammill's doomy musings and the boys' anarchic jams would be of benefit to global wellbeing.
     
  21. soundQman

    soundQman Senior Member

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    :laughup: “Van der Graaf Generator is for Everyone.”
     
  22. hugo.polo

    hugo.polo Forum Resident

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    Has anyone else noticed the glitch on the stereo remix of Lost at 3:28-3:30? Still haven’t received my box set but it’s on the Spotify version. Wonder if it’s on the 5.1 mix too?
     
  23. murrays

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    I just had a listen to the remix CD and I couldn’t hear anything obvious there.
     
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  24. albertop

    albertop Forum Resident

    Yes, I did notice that. I don't know what that is, a little dropout?
    It's on the stereo remix, but not on the stereo remaster.
    I haven't checked the 5.1, but it would be safe to assume it's there.
     
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  25. Instant Dharma

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    As I am doing at this very moment. First it was Sleepwalkers from Paris now Lemming from Rimini. Wow.
     

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