Warning to all record collectors!!! (outer bag/inner sleeve concerns)*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by rockadelic, Oct 17, 2014.

  1. Easy-E

    Easy-E Forum Resident

    This is whats in it:

    Chemical Composition/Ingredients

    Non-hazardous ingredient(s) 50.0-70.0 %

    Solvent naphtha, petroleum, medium aliphatic 7.0-13.0 %
    Aluminum oxide 5.0-10.0 %
    Mineral oil, white 5.0-10.0 %
    Dimethicone (a silicon-based organic polymer) 1.0-5.0 %


    I wouldnt use this on anything i wanted to keep!!
     
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  2. MielR

    MielR Where am I...?

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  3. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

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    Ive had this issue without PVC covers being involved at all or any type of specific inner sleeve. It seems to be possibly due to vinyl formulation. Ive noticed a lot of my records pressed by Rainbo and United sometimes have this kind of fogging or milky appearance. It seems to be mostly on just parts of the record rather than the entire thing. I cannot tell at this point if this is a progressive thing or not but, from what i can tell, it does seem to get worse gradually in some cases.

    This is a minority of pressings for sure and i dont get this on any other records...but it is irritating!
     
  4. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

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    Duly noted. Almost all sleeves that aren't paper are Polyethylene so hopefully "poly sleeves" are understood to mean those and PVC understood to mean polyvinyl chloride. It can get a bit confusing.
     
  5. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

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    Well if you are talking about rare or valuable sure. If you are talking about common records worth 1-5 dollars at most I'd say that would be overkill.
     
  6. Zapruder

    Zapruder Just zis guy, you know?

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    I think any record you want to listen to and keep in good shape is worth slapping a MoFi sleeve on, regardless of its value.
     
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  7. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

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    How much difference is there in a standard poly sleeve and a MoFi sleeve? I just question the necessity of it if the albums are kept in a climate controlled environment. I'm open to having mind changed though.
     
  8. Zapruder

    Zapruder Just zis guy, you know?

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    I doubt there's much difference, I just like them because of the paper structural insert. I'm anal like that.
     
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  9. lazydawg58

    lazydawg58 Know enough to know how much I don't know

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    Gottcha. I'm more a record collector than a audiophile type. I try to buy thrift store rehabs, record show seller's bargains and people's collections and keep average cost between .75 and $1.50. Then I clean them up and play grade them. G+ or less go in a discard box, the ones I want to keep in another box, and the one's I'll put out at an antique shop space I rent another. The latter two get new inner and outer sleeves and I end up (if there aren't too many discards) having about $2 or $2.50 in each. I price all of them in the antique shop at $4 each. I can't justify the extra cost of the more expensive archive grade sleeves. I don't make money off selling them at the shop, in fact haven't covered the cost of space rental yet, but hopefully will reach the point I can offset some of cost of my hobby.
     
  10. sethICE

    sethICE Forum Resident

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    NYC
    I was recently in London and did some record shopping - 45's only so they would fit in my luggage. Quite a few of the used 45's I bought were in those stiff, textured PVC sleeves. They went in the garbage (PVC sleeves, not the records or their paper sleeves!).
     
  11. MielR

    MielR Where am I...?

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    Here's a brief video explaining the difference in the materials used for record sleeves (vinyl is NOT good for long-term storage, polyethylene & polypropylene are both very good, POLYESTER is the best, and the only material approved by the Library of Congress):
     
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  12. stenway

    stenway Forum Resident

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    FL, USA
    They mention something like POLYESTER (Mylar) but the true Mylar is the best of the best!, used for expensive comics and this is the company that sell it E. Gerber Products, LLC. - Item Listing they focus on comics but they do for 33 inch records but the size is 13x13 (too big for my taste) and are expensive, also buy on his store is a pain, we need send the credit card info by email! are a trusted company but... for comics is easy, third party sellers sell his stuff on ebay, this is the only third party seller that sell for 33 on ebay:
    Pack of 50 Mylites 2 Mil Mylar 33RPM LP Record Album Bags archival outer sleeves | eBay

    Anyone has tried the eGerber for records?
     
  13. MielR

    MielR Where am I...?

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    I've never heard of eGerber. I've been ordering from Bags Unlimited for many years, and they are a great company. Their catalogs are great, and the variety of products they sell is amazing. I don't think I'll ever need special gloves for handling ephemera, but if I ever do, I know where to get them. :p They sell a great cleaner for 78s and acetates which I found to be very effective.
     
  14. stenway

    stenway Forum Resident

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    FL, USA
    I try all BagsUnlimited sleeves, I request samples of each, are nice but ClearBags Search Results are better (better sizes, fits perfect, good materials, more clear).

    eGerber is the major distribuidor of sleeves for comic collectors, they use real Mylar, is the best of the best, the owner told me that he try to sell for records but record collectors don't care much about (maybe due the price and no advertising) otherwise they are the top for comics collectors.

    I create the most solid packing for singles with eGerber comic sleeves, the problem is the size is not made for 7 inch singles. look: Imgur

    Now I use another way and materials (I show my results/method later).
     
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