Were The Monkees the biggest group in the world at one point?

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  1. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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    Inspired by the Oasis thread of the same topic, I ask the forum members this question:

    Were The Monkees ever the biggest group in the world at one point?

    Specifically, the year 1967.

    They had four straight number one albums in a row, starting with their debut “The Monkees” released near the end of 1966, with their next three albums, “More of The Monkees”, “Headquarters”, and “Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd.” all reaching the top spot in the USA in 1967. The first three albums also went to number 1 in Canada, and the first two also went to number 1 in the U.K. as well. There is also the claim that The Monkees outsold The Beatles and The Rolling Stones combined in 1967, although Mike Nesmith claimed to have made this up. During their initial run (in which they were releasing albums) from 1966-1970, they also had a few number one singles, and many other hits that charted high around the world, most notably “I’m A Believer” which went to number 1 in at least 11 different countries.

    Then we have the TV show, which was groundbreaking and a hit at the time, and won an Emmy.

    They embarked on a rather large USA/UK tour in 1967, with Jimi Hendrix opening for them during a few dates in the USA! Monkeemania was in full effect, and unless someone points out credible evidence to suggest otherwise, I believe they briefly became the biggest group in the world. What do you think?

    (Although I know this argument is going to pop up, let’s try to abstain from arguing about whether they could write or play, as there is a mountain of evidence against the myth that they couldn’t and it is not the intended discussion of this thread)

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  4. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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  5. Galactus2

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    The Monkees were very possibly the biggest band in the world in those years.......for kids 12 and younger. I was there, had their early albums in mono, and they were huge.

    Once I got a little older, though, they were kind of a 'gateway band' to The Beatles, and more serious rock then after.

    A wonderful start on a life-long love of music, though, so I'll give them that. Fond memories, and good times.
     
  6. daca

    daca Currently on Double Secret Probation

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    Wasn’t there an insect band that was rather large in 1967? Also, a rolling stone gathers no moss.

    Before my time, but I am going with NO to your question.
     
  7. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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    The Monkees sold very mightily that year, and had a hit tv show. Also helped that they were touring at that point and The Beatles weren’t.
     
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  8. Mark H

    Mark H Senior Member

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    Another studio created bubblegum band. So just no
     
  9. WilliamWes

    WilliamWes Likes to sing along but he knows not what it means

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    Well it would have to be between late 1966 and the first half of 1967 before Sgt. Pepper came out if they were. Overall for the year of 1967 though while The Monkees had the #1 album for a ton of weeks in 1967, The Beatles personally knocked them off with an album that changed the genre from being singles-oriented to album-oriented and that was enormous. With some still calling "Strawberry Fields Forever"/"Penny Lane" the greatest single ever, that helps the Beatles case for the 1967 overall. Late 1966 though, The Beatles were wading in hot water.
    :-popcorn:
     
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  10. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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    Whether one likes them or not wasn’t the question though. It’s about the amount of success they had, which was very large to say the least.
     
  11. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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    Your popcorn emoji is noted, I’m sure this will get interesting!
     
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  13. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I think it is always going to be difficult to pinpoint a biggest band in the world at specific points.
    The Monkees were big, and perhaps biggest band in the US, but I'm not sure it crossed over to biggest in the world, even though they were popular.
     
  14. Liam Brown

    Liam Brown Forum Resident

    The Monkees had the number one album in America for 29 weeks in 1967, second place was the Beatles with 15 weeks. "More of the Monkees" was the best selling album of the year in the usa. So it seems like The Monkees could definitely have been the biggest band in America in that year. The rest of the world, I don't know, did they sell much in The UK, Canada, Australia etc...? if so, i think its entirely possible they were the biggest band in the world that year.
     
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  15. Linus

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    Voted yes, and they were, albeit briefly.

    Viewers in the USA and U.K. are probably not aware how huge Monkeemania was in Australia and Japan in 67 - 68.

    At that time, The Beatles and Stones had become serious musicians and alienated younger fans to a degree. Enter the Monkees - good pop music, groundbreaking TV show, good looking, fun loving boys all. How could they not be the most popular band in the world?
     
  16. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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    Nicely put! Some users on here have the notion that if you were popular with mostly young fans then that disqualifies you from being the biggest or best. I’ve seen it on other threads as well. Young people count too.
     
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  17. You don't know much about The Monkees do you?
     
  18. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover Thread Starter

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    Even with that little disclaimer at the end of my initial first post I knew people wouldn't be able to resist. That’s just the name of the game I guess
     
  19. Mickey2

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    The best-selling album of 1967 was More of the Monkees, not Sgt. Peppers' Lonely Hearts Club Band.
     
  20. pokemaniacjunk

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    no, they were beaten out by The Beatles and The Turtles among other groups and acts
     
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  21. tootull

    tootull Looking through a glass onion

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    THE MONKEES OUTSOLD THE BEATLES AND THE ROLLING STONES IN 1967. Yes, you read that correctly. In 1967, the year of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Between the Buttons, and Their Satanic Majesties Request, The Monkees outsold both The Beatles and The Rolling Stones—combined.
     
  22. Liam Brown

    Liam Brown Forum Resident

    beaten out how? neither of those groups sold more albums than the monkees in 1967. so what criteria are you using to declare them winners? the turtles album peaked at 25 that year. the monkees were number 1 for 29 weeks.
     
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  23. pokemaniacjunk

    pokemaniacjunk Forum Resident

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    I was thinking about singles not albums
     
  24. WilliamWes

    WilliamWes Likes to sing along but he knows not what it means

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    It's impossible to downplay the impact Sgt. Pepper had on the world. It is still the most culture-changing album of all-time. It was considered the greatest album of all-time before people got tired of all its accolades around 2000. We all know there's more to it than just sales and charts. I'm not even saying either way whether the Monkees were the biggest. Of course its obvious they had the biggest advantage with a TV show. That helps.
     
  25. Good2BAnywhere

    Good2BAnywhere Forum Resident

    But The Monkees sold more than the Beatles & Stones combined in ‘67! Mike Nesmith said so, so it must be true!
     
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