Were The Rolling Stones King of Baroque Pop?

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  1. Meddle

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    I think pet sounds is the first baroque rock album,
     
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  2. Michael

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    Golden nuggets!
     
  3. AFOS

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    Some early Bee Gees is baroque - "Massachusetts" has lots of classical stuff going on
     
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  4. Mike Bass

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    I second that. Now that I think about it, The Beach Boys and The Zombies were two giants with this genre.
    Obviously The Beatles mastered baroque, but with just a handful of tracks. A handful of the best ones though! :)
     
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    A couple cuts on Voodoo Lounge scratch this itch nicely. I hope they dabble a bit on their next one, too.
     
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  6. Slokes

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    Baroque pop seems to me less a case of employing the occasional harpsichord/violin and more a totality of approach. The Stones have a couple of baroque pop standouts, but I'd be interested if there was any major band which took the approach as far as The Left Banke did on that one album. I kinda think not.

    Maybe there is a baroque pop king to be crowned, but it's not much of a kingdom.
     
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  7. Carl Swanson

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    "Lady Jane" is the only Stones song I would call even marginally "baroque pop." Far from being the "kings" of the sub-genre, IMO, they barely dipped a toe. If any pop song with a string arrangement is "baroque pop," the early Bee Gees would be miles ahead of the Stones in that department.
     
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  8. John Fell

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    Aftermath is in my top 5 Stones albums but I don't care for Between The Buttons and Satanic Majesties Requests as much although they have their moments.
     
  9. Something which almost none of the songs listed do.

    Not only were the Stones not the "kings of baroque pop" - a pretty small genre in any event - they weren't even significant practitioners.
     
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    I like the songs on the list that I know, which is about half. I'm in the process of listening to the other half right now, and so far so good!

    However, Marianne Faithfull's version of As Tears Go By is far more baroque (and colourful) than the Stones' own version.
     
  11. sami

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  12. O Don Piano

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    Maybe 8-9 from OP's list qualify.
    Under My Thumb? 2000 Man? Child Of The Moon? Out Of Time?
    Definitely not!
    These songs have unusual instruments and arrangements, but not Baroque in the "classical" sense. And the Stones weren't "the Kings" of it....
     
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  13. Meddle

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    I love both of them, they're. Some of my favorite's
     
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  14. Mr_Vinyl

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    If they were, then Led Zeppelin is the troubadour of Rock...

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  15. Mike Bass

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    Haha! Alright, alright. I guess I'm in the minority here. In hindsight, "king" is too big a word to describe their work with this genre, since they didn't invent it.
    I do believe that all of the songs I listed have at least a hint of baroque. Some more obvious than others, of course.
     
  16. Holy Diver

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    I've never seen pants like that at JCPenney. :)
     
  17. Mr_Vinyl

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    Well no, it's not far-fetched what you said. There definitely is a hint - like in the Beatles' In my Life or Penny Lane - but more so for the Stones!
     
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    The U.K. version of Aftermath is my total favorite Rolling Stones album.

    I know that didn't answer the question, but since we're talking about Aftermath...
     
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  19. SixtiesGuy

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    I'd say most of the Bee Gees' work prior to Jive Talkin' (more or less) qualified as baroque pop.

    Though they hit their stride somewhat later in the '60's, I think the owners of that genre were the Moody Blues.
     
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  20. jimmydean

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    more appropriate would be "the simon and garfunkel of blues rock"
     
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  21. George Blair

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    Not Kings, Lords maybe. Knights of Baroque has a nice ring.
     
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    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

  23. Uncle Meat

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  24. qwerty

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    I'm also not familiar with the term, but are these ideas on the right track?

    Do some of the orchestral-pop songs of the 60's fit this?
    Mason Williams-Classical Gas
    Paul Mauriat - Love is Blue

    Then there were songs based on classical melodies and classical instruments
    Rosemary Clooney - Come on-a My House (strong harpsichord use)
    Procul Harum - Lighter Shade of Pale
    Dusty Springfield - Windmills of your Mind
    Apollo 100 - Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
    The Toys - A Lover's Concerto
    B Bumble and the Stingers - Nut Rocker
    The Seekers - The Carnival is Over

    And then there are bands like Sky, which reappropriated a lot of classical music for pop.
     
  25. Uncle Meat

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    If the answer is yes, then Spike Jones is the King of Songs about Bunnies
     
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