What are the Gloria chords?

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  1. drad dog

    drad dog Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    A refugee from another thread where it was "off topic."

    I hear E D A. I don't hear E Em D A. How many here can hear a minor chord? How many can't? No shame.

    I've looked at a number of live performances by Van Morrison.
     
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  2. Doctor Fine

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    Yeah.
    I hear the E minor.
    It's clear as a bell.
    E-Em-D-A.
    That's the way the ORIGINAL goes.
    Later versions and covers sometimes ignore the Em.
    Those versions all go E-E-D-A.
    What's the big deal?
     
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  3. BDC

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    I think sometimes you just hear the root/ fifth, leaving major / minor determined by surrounding voices/instruments... E A D but if you hear E minor so be it
     
  4. swandown

    swandown Under Assistant West Coast Forum Resident

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    I always thought there were two guitars during the first part of the song.
     
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  5. drad dog

    drad dog Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    In the first seconds I hear a stuttered E chord (x4) on rhythm guitar, no minor third. There are 4 beats of the E chord, and each one is missing this aspect of the minor chord that you are hearing.

    Now play the song with 2 hits on the E and two on the Em. Do you want to get up and play that?
     
  6. drad dog

    drad dog Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    According to wiki there might have been two drummers, a first for UK rock. If there was a second guitar it would have been Jimmy Page.
     
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  7. Doctor Fine

    Doctor Fine Forum Resident

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    I want to get up and play (two hits EACH)
    E.
    Em
    D
    A

    Nobody said you can't play the song some other way.
    I just like doing it the ORIGINAL way.
     
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  8. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your Host Your Host

    No minor chord, 'cumon. You're thinking of LOUIS LOUIS.
     
  9. ShockControl

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    E minor is there. Clear as day.
     
  10. A sloppy E can turn into an E 5-note power chord which can then fool some into thinking it's minor.

    No G natural, no E minor. Period.

    That said, Robby Krieger plays it straight E major and that's the only version I care about, so :D y'all can fight about the VM version all you'd like.
     
  11. ShockControl

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    I can hear the G# going to the G natural very clearly.
     
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  12. Steve Hoffman

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    Yes.

    Geez, people, play it how you want but there is no minor in Gloria as written. Play it with a minor, if it sounds wonderful to you, cool.

    And once again, there is a minor on the 5 chord in LOUIE.
     
  13. bhazen

    bhazen Fab Fourever

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    Even on my cheesy little Android speaker in a busy Starbucks I can hear the Em! It is clear as daylight, to me. The second pair of 8th notes ...

    Not everyone hears it. Most bar bands, in fact, play it E-E-D-A, to my (useless) annoyance. I annoy other guitarists in bands I'm playing in (or messing around with) that are about to do "Gloria", instructing them to lift their fingers there. :D

    Glad this subject came up, it's been bugging me for ages.
     
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  14. ShockControl

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    Some people have better ears than others.
     
  15. drad dog

    drad dog Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I looked for Mae West doing it, w/no silent consonants, but alas cannot locate. I think it was mae west.
     
  16. bhazen

    bhazen Fab Fourever

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    Laurel! Yanni!!
     
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  17. bhazen

    bhazen Fab Fourever

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    On this forum, I won't make that claim ...!
     
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  18. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    NO MINOR...
     
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  19. drad dog

    drad dog Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    "Original" having a non standard definition here I assume. When you play the minor do the people say "Why are you playing Louie Louie?"
     
  20. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    but, its a fact jack! ; )
     
  21. ShockControl

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    Being able to tell the difference between gear does not correlate to pitch.
     
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  22. Finchingfield

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    Unbelievable, you loin sumfin every day!

    But the version I now here with the E minor is this, it's an 8 chord sequence, with a little sloppiness thrown in, sumfin like this:

    E down stroke - E up stroke - Em down stroke - Em up stroke
    D down stroke - open strings up stroke - A down stroke - open strings up stroke

    It's there !!
     
  23. bhazen

    bhazen Fab Fourever

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    True. I figure my 50+ years as a working musician generally stand me in good stead ... just not always.
     
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  24. Archtop

    Archtop No Blood, no bass.

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    Gloria as played by whom?

    If you mean the original version posted by @Doctor Fine, I hear two guitar parts on that. One is riffing in open position and the second is chording; possibly at frets 7 and 5 but more likely in the same position as the other. The guitar that is riffing clearly plays (starting on the and of 1) G# G G# A A G# over the "E to A to D and back to E" chord change.

    So it's more complicated than asking "what are the chords?" The guitarist who is chording is simply playing the E as a dyad with octaves (I refuse to use the term power chord because it's an oxymoron): E E B E (or something akin to that) and the second guitarist (the one riffing) is creating the harmony with a simple melodic line that changes the "E" from an E Major to an E minor and then back again.
     
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  25. bhazen

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    Shadows Of Knight appear to do it E-E-D-A. I suspect that's how a lot of you heard it for the first time, on American AM radio ...?
     
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