What happened to AmazonUS Autorip?

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  1. Bill007

    Bill007 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Boynton Beach, Fla
    In addition to recent lack of song samples i don’t see Autorip available on several recent classic rock cds. Have they stopped it permanently? It is also still not clear as of today, even if it was still available, how you know in advance on a pre-order of a cd, if you will get it. Does anyone know what’s going on with either change (and yes I get the jokes about Amazon, but Autorip was a nice feature and ability to sample songs too)?
     
  2. c-eling

    c-eling I never dreamed another way.

    Just checked-
    Had a couple recently I bought that came with it.
    Amazon Music--->Open Web Player. It will give a history of all your auto-rips and options to download if you want.
     
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  3. MARTHY

    MARTHY Forum Resident

    Every time I purchase an album from Amz that has an autorip I always get an email with a link to claim my download. However, DO NOT download the digital files *until* you've received the actual album and confirm that you won't be returning it. Once you download the digitals you *cannot* return the physical album for a refund.
     
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  4. Mossmind

    Mossmind Active Member

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    That’s a great point. Some of us have had to learn that the hard way!
     
  5. Lemon Curry

    Lemon Curry (A) Face In The Crowd

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    Why would I want a refund, though? I've gotten autorip with vinyl purchases, used it asap, and was able to replace defective vinyl.
    I can't think of a case where I'd just want my money back.
     
  6. mattright

    mattright Forum Resident

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    I have also noticed the lack of song samples - does anyone know why they removed those as well?
     
  7. Bill007

    Bill007 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    As just an example of the lack of both autorip and ( I believe) no samples either I am pointing to the 2 new cd sets that were released today -Goats Head Soup 2 cd deluxe edition, and the new Fleetwood Mac box set.
     
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  8. vinylontubes

    vinylontubes Forum Resident

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    I tend to think Auto-Rip along with digital download codes are just marketing freebies. I don't take them for granted. You aren't really paying for them. They are enticements to get bring you into to their ecosystem. In the case of digital download codes, this was a way of adding some value to vinyl which isn't easily ripped to digital without some additional investment of gear and software. I first remember digital downloads included with vinyl when iTunes became a thing. You could buy the album off iTunes or buy the vinyl album and it included the mp3 files, so the extra cost of the physical media would be offset by the inclusion of the price you would pay had you bought the download alone. It was the indie labels that included these download first. This gave them a competitive advantage over the Major labels who weren't even selling much vinyl in the early '00s. Buying an indie record gave you some value. When the Majors reentered vinyl, they matched the mp3 to remove the indie labels advantage. Shortly after, Amazon added Auto-rip. They kind of went crazy, in fact. Auto-rip was retroactive. When the program first started, I had about 50 albums in My Albums from Amazon. Anything I bought previously was added to mp3 downloadable cache at Amazon. It wasn't just vinyl. I had SACDs, too. I don't often use my Auto-rip catalog. I use it mostly when I'm traveling. I can stream albums from my car if I want to. So, it's nice. But I also know that with my Prime membership I get access to a lot of other albums that I don't own. I can't download these, but I can stream them. I use the same app either on my phone or my computer to access these songs. I can search for a song or an album and it'll be presented. If it's unavailable, I'm quickly reminded that I can upgrade to an Unlimited subscription or I buy the album as an mp3 to add to my Auto-rip collection. It's all marketing. To get to your free stuff, you are further exposed to the marketing whims of Amazon. You have to enter their marketplace to access what you already have. You're trapped (well ensnared is probably a better term since baiting is involved). So, the fact that a particular album doesn't include Auto-rip doesn't annoy me one bit. Big deal, I didn't get the free thing. I know all Amazon want to do is actually sell me things. This is what they do. Before you buying than on their website, they make offers to repurchase items you already own, or maybe something related to those things in your cart. This is what Amazon does. I fully understand that. And I don't doubt that Amazon is purely messing with it's customers. The fact that this thread exist proves it. People feel entitled to an Auto-rip and they feel deprived when they don't get it. But Auto-rip is a just another carrot dangle out by Amazon. Well, you don't get the free download or today streaming. But if you want it, it's just a click away and their happy to sell it to you or maybe you want to become an Unlimited subscriber, that's available too. Don't be fooled, Auto-rip isn't offered out of Jeff Bezos' benevolence. It's offered because they want sell you something.
     
  9. John Porcellino

    John Porcellino Forum Resident

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    Beloit, WI
    Sorry to see this feature go. It was the main reason I would purchase music from Amazon instead of other online retailers.
     
  10. Sebastian saglimbenI

    Sebastian saglimbenI Forum Resident

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    I Pre-ordered the TEARS FOR FEARS-"SOWING THE SEEDS OF LOVE" Super deluxe box and recieved the original album within minutes of pre-ordering in my Amazon music "purchased"....wishing it were all the disc's of course.
     
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  11. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    You can still get a refund for the physical product, but often Amazon will charge you for the download version.
     
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  12. MYQ1

    MYQ1 Forum Resident

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    I think it's cool & hope it's still available.
    Last album I got that way was maybe three moths ago.
     
  13. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    It was still working in August. Got an autorip of McCartney's Flaming Pie reissue, and a couple of other things. But it has never been uniformly applicable to all purchases; some things are offered as autorips, others are not.
     
  14. MechanicalAnimal6

    MechanicalAnimal6 Forum Resident

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    i just got auto rip of 3 brand new albums that came out last friday.
    and then got it for something else a week before that.

    but a few weeks ago i did notice that it wasn't listed with albums that had previously listed.
    now i am seeing some of them have it listed again.

    i spoke with an amazon rep about it and they said that they were working with record labels and stuff
    on the rights and whatnot in being able to still use and provide auto rip, so some changes have been going
    on recently, but it's not fully gone on all options.
     
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  15. It is a courtesy given to you by Amazon. Sometimes there is a delay with brand new product being available, and sometimes the label forbids it period.
     
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  16. Vic_1957

    Vic_1957 Forum Resident

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    I would use Autorip if I just couldn't wait for the delivery and wanted to listen asap. Otherwise I'd wait and rip the CD to Vorbis or FLAC formats. I prefer open source formats anyway.
     
  17. Bill007

    Bill007 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Are u sure this wasn’t already available as a free digital download for prime members prior to pre-ordering of the box set?
     
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  18. Sebastian saglimbenI

    Sebastian saglimbenI Forum Resident

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    It was offered as part of the pre-order of the duper deluxe edition....its not on offer now I see....anyway I wasn't billed for it as far as I can see.when I pre-ordered the big BOBBIE GENTRY box set i recieved the entire contents of that set in my amazon music "purchased" list.i am not that tech savvy so it being added automatically is convenient.
     
  19. John Porcellino

    John Porcellino Forum Resident

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    Beloit, WI
    It looks like Autorips are showing back up for some albums. However, I noticed that I never received the mp3s for the Kinks Lola Deluxe Set I purchased back at release. In the past when you ordered a Prime CD without Autorip, if the Autorip later became available for it, Amazon automatically provided the mp3s upon availablility. I spoke with a customer service rep who stated that this was no longer their policy. If the record does not feature Autorip at the time of your purchase you'll no longer receive them if Autorip is added later to the release.

    In the past if I noticed this I could contact Amazon and they would add the mp3s to my library. No longer.
     
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  20. Antenociticus

    Antenociticus Forum Resident

    If an Autorip is available I'm more likely to buy the vinyl version of an album - especially as download cards are becoming rarer or in many cases expiring soon after release.
    I just bought 2 Dream Syndicate LPs that came with Autorip -I'll listen to them in the truck before the albums arrive.
     
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