What if the Beach Boys had played Monterey?

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  1. zen

    zen Forum Resident

    The Beach Boys had become cultural dinosaurs that quickly? Wasn't Good Vibrations a huge hit in late '66/early '67?
     
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  2. S. P. Honeybunch

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    No one else that I know of was employing theremin in rock. Thankfully, M. L. learned how to operate said instrument and gainfully employed himself to bring this "far out" sound to The Beach Boys live performances. What would the embryonic live renditions of "Good Vibrations" be like without the "woo woo machine"?
     
  3. jwb1231970

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    In all honesty, I don't think not playing at Monterey was anything. The Beatles didn't play and they were fine afterwards. They like the Beatles would not have been able to reproduce the music that was current for them. They like the Beatles shouldn't have to do oldies. The only thing that really killed the momentum was the lack of promotion at Capitol Records, during that time period. They had the best of the best in music going for them but no one to support it fully. Capitol wasn't too concerned Sgt Pepper taking it's time.
     
  4. BIG ED

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    JJ
    "Good Vibrations"
    :uhhuh:
     
  5. dumangl

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    I sort of like Brian's crazy minimalist Smiley-Smile-esque arrangements of their old hits. The harmonies are exquisite. Also I think many in the audience might have enjoyed a laid back mellow performance as a change from the electricity of The Who or Hendrix.
     
  6. Bill

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    I was wrong about something above: Capitol had the Beach Boys dead and buried two months after the release of Pet Sounds by releasing Best of in July 1966, eleven months before Monterey. Sorry.
     
  7. cungar

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    Yes open air rock festivals are always ruled by pristine harmony vocals.
     
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  8. PhilBorder

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    Given their abilities as a live act at that time, I don't think they would've made a great impression.
     
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  9. S. P. Honeybunch

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    Are you here to be negative about The Beach Boys tremendous abilities? If you're going to be negative, just stop posting.
     
  10. Tony Sclafani

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    It was a festival, so most acts didn't do that many songs. The Animals did four. Quicksilver and Big Brother did five each.

    The Beach Boys could have gone over if they picked five of their more current hits (or LP cuts) and played them with both Brian and Bruce in tow (Brian on keyboards). Ironically, Johnny Rivers opened his set with the Beach Boys' "Help Me, Rhonda," so they could have claimed that right off.

    The four other tunes could have been "Sloop John B" (which had folk cred), "California Girls," "Good Vibrations" (a #1 hit six months earlier), and either "Heroes and Villians" or a guitar-oriented number like "Girl Don't Tell Me" (not everything had to be hits). They might not have blown the roof off the place, but could have reminded everyone how catchy these numbers were and how their music had progressed.

    Other acts that didn't fit the Monterey stereotype included the then-little known Laura Nyro, Simon and Garfunkel, the aforementioned Johnny Rivers, UK folkie Beverly Martyn (Kutner), and the Association. I see a good Beach Boys set going over way bigger than any of these acts.
     
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  11. davenav

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    I think you are rewriting history according to your own 20/20 hindsight.

    So, I'll just leave you to it.

    Bye.
     
  12. cungar

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    LOL Anything else you want me to do oh great overlord of the forum? The question was how would the Beach Boys have done at Monterey. I voiced my opinion. Don't like it? Too bad.
     
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  13. bumbletort

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    If they had performed in suitable garb--that is, anything but the stripe shirts etc. associated with their imho genius and mis-evaluated 'surf & hotrods' era--and simply given the audience the following (it was after all not going to be an Endless Set)...

    Good Vibrations
    Wonderful (mostly solo Brian like the vintage original from Autumn 1966)
    Wind Chimes
    God Only Knows

    ...there would have been moments of awe tantamount to those of the now more revered acts of the festival, and they would have triumphed...and the History of that Era would be considered far differently in some respects today (this should happen anyway...and it will).
     
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  14. S. P. Honeybunch

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    Too bad for you that you aren't interested in hearing the Beach Boys sing well. Enjoy your screamo festival.
     
  15. vinyldreams

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    They would have gone over fine. A lot of the acts there sounded rather rough in a live setting anyway. If S&G and M&P could perform then surely the BB could as well.
     
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  16. Rubber Soul

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    Not sure how they would have gone over. That certainly would depend on their performance. However inferring that they didn't have the material to wow a crowd is just wrong. I mean beyond the hits they now had Pet Sounds, Good Vibrations, and stuff from Smile(such as Surf's Up). They could have been amazing!
     
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  17. bRETT

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    In terms of hipster cred, playing Monterey didn't seem to do much good for the Association. Or the Mamas & the Papas, for that matter.
     
  18. Bill

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    Nobody had heard Smile then.
     
  19. JohnnyQuest

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    "Wouldn't it Be Nice" would've made a nice opener. (As cheesy as it sounds.) :p

    It also didn't hurt them.
     
  20. captwillard

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    Well, it served as a launching pad for Hendrix, Otis Redding, Jefferson Airplane, Joplin, Etc... It didn't help that Redding, Joplin, and Hendrix would be dead five years later.
     
  21. jwb1231970

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    They better not have worn the striped shirts
     
  22. audiodrome

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    I guess I would have to agree with this assessment but it probably wouldn't have mattered that much in the context of the show.
     
  23. JohnnyQuest

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    Check out the 1968 attire...
     
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  24. oldsurferdude

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    Thank God Brian could see beyond the surfing stuff. That's why we've got Pet Sounds, Good Vibrations, Smile, Friends, Wild Honey, 20/20, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland, TWGMTR, and the newly minted No Pier Pressure to listen to. :uhhuh:
     
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