What is the worst 'bad edit' in The Beatles original canon?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by pablo fanques, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. Chip TRG

    Chip TRG Senior Member

    They sound like sloppy punch-ins.
     
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  2. I don't know about the edit being bad but John bringing in a different guitar certainly makes it more readily apparent.
     
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  3. Tommyboy

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    Which works so well for what it’s worth.
     
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  4. Tommyboy

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    Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t take 1 used with handclaps overdubbed? Additionally, the count-in from take 9 was tacked on.
     
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  5. DennisF

    DennisF Forum Resident

    In another thread, I believe someone recently said that the edit in This Boy sounds worse in the stereo version. True?
     
  6. Laservampire

    Laservampire Down with this sort of thing

    They didn't play Strawberry Fields Forever the way the final master is presented either, but those edits definitely aren't mistakes ;)

    Like I said earlier, the fact that there are two extra beats means that the edit was intentional, even if the idea for the edit was born from an accident.

    The most likely scenario is that they were editing together two mixes of the song, one edit ending with the complete note, and the other edit starting at the complete note, so that when the mix was played back the beat at the edit point was repeated. John probably liked the accident but decided to add another beat to make the edit work in a musical sense.

    If you listen to the three notes you'll find that the middle beat is actually mixed differently from the other two, not having the horns present in the right channel. So it was indeed spliced in from yet another mix, something would had to have happened purposefully, not a mistake.
     
  7. nosticker

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    Not to me. It's another example of his tasty playing. If it's a stumble, it feels great and stays in time.


    Dan
     
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  8. Squealy

    Squealy Forum Hall Of Fame

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    “Let Me Roll It” contains the same kind of accidental edit as “Revolution 1.”
     
  9. paul62

    paul62 Forum Resident

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    Not a Beatles track (but it would have been if they had made an album in 1970) is "Working Class Hero": that is the worst bad edit in the collective canon of The Beatles, isn't it?
    I'm sitting here thinking of how a possible Beatles version might sound, with Paul and George (even Ringo!) joining John on the chorus......
     
  10. Drifter

    Drifter AAD survivor

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    Make a mono mix of the stereo ending and tack it onto the end...
    problem solved.
     
  11. Drifter

    Drifter AAD survivor

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    Yes, that's the one. Actually, the beginning of the break is maybe even worse for me as there's a loud edit "pop" immediately before the harp solo comes in. It's quite jarring on some versions of the song.
     
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  12. Alex D.

    Alex D. Forum Resident

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    “Saw her standing there there.”
     
  13. John54

    John54 Senior Member

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    You mean that last chord without the ride cymbal beneath it in Roll Over Beethoven wasn't supposed to be done that way?

    I always assumed it was part of the song's charm. I wouldn't want to hear it any other way.
     
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  14. Larry Mc

    Larry Mc Forum Dude

    "Hold Me Tight"
     
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  15. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    You are not wrong.

    No edits except for the count in.
     
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  16. Onder

    Onder Senior Member

    It's on Studio 2 Session At Abbey Road vol. 1 by Yellow Dog.

    Ondra
     
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  17. pablo fanques

    pablo fanques Somebody's Bad Handwroter In Memoriam Thread Starter

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    There was an issue with the equipment for sure. I can’t say whether it was pumch-ins or not but I believe Unsurpassed Masters has ‘Day Tripper’ with the mistakes intact. There are mechanical swooshing sounds that were removed before release. Almost like a “THWAP”. The producers of TV’s Batman may have been privy to the unaltered tapes :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Drifter

    Drifter AAD survivor

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    I think it's John and Paul slightly out of sync with each other.
     
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  19. Drifter

    Drifter AAD survivor

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    There's no edit there.
     
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  20. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    I never thought so either. To me it just sounds like John being John.
     
  21. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Forum Resident

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    Well, you seem to be more invested in this than I am. There’s a difference between a mistake and something intentionally added, but I’m sure you know that. Also, I disagree with the always reliable Wiki that it was 2 beats. I actually only hear what I consider to be a splice error. Can we just agree to disagree?
     
  22. pablo fanques

    pablo fanques Somebody's Bad Handwroter In Memoriam Thread Starter

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    There ain’t no good guys. There ain’t no bad guys
     
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  23. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Forum Resident

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    Totally agreed. Plus, we're probably all Beatle fans on this thread! Hopefully there's no animosity or hurt feelings, because that is CERTAINLY NOT what I was going for. Just conversation and having a bit of fun.
     
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  24. numer9

    numer9 Beatles Apologist

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    Speaking of bringing in a different guitar....
     
  25. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

    Some of you do not seem to know what an edit is. The tape is actually cut and spliced to another piece.
     
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