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What's the difference between "Wings" and "Paul McCartney & Wings"?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by SolitaryMan, Jul 31, 2020.

  1. SolitaryMan

    SolitaryMan Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Apple Music make this difference. Should I make it when I organise my music library?
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  2. Izozeles

    Izozeles Pushing my limits

    Just fill it under Paul. There’s no real difference
    DM Curator, Oaw, Freebird and 26 others like this.
  3. Price.pittsburgh

    Price.pittsburgh Forum Resident

    It was Wings from jump but Paul was added to sell better then they went back to Wings. However unofficially most just say Paul McCartney and Wings for all.
  4. applebonkerz

    applebonkerz Forum Resident

    more ego :shh:
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  5. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

  6. Wings is a myth , an illusion , smoke and mirrors...
    It' s Paul McCartney and a revolving door of musicians with Linda and Denny giving the appearance that it's a ' group '
    File all albums under ' M ' for MCCARTNEY.
  7. SolitaryMan

    SolitaryMan Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I know this is a stupid question, but how should I organize files marked "Wings", "Paul McCartney & Wings" and Paul McCartney? I have this OCD symptom where "Wings" and "Paul McCartney & Wings" really can't exist at the same time, but yet they do.
  8. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    I've always thought of "Wings" and "Paul McCartney and Wings" as McCartney solo, with Linda being a Yoko substitute and a group of session musicians as backup.
  9. Iowa Hawkeye Beatlefan

    Iowa Hawkeye Beatlefan Well-Known Member

    Davenport, IA USA
    I've never heard Paul say this directly, but I believe it started as just Wings, and when Wild Life didn't set the whole on fire in sales (by Paul's standards), it was probably suggested to add his name in front, which was that way for Red Rose Speedway and Band On The Run. After both of those albums were #1 albums, Wings was well known enough to drop Paul's name again. At least that's my theory. So it's one and the same, and debatable if it's really any different than Paul solo albums.
  10. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Actually, Paul wanted it to just be "Wings" - he resisted "Paul McCartney and Wings".

    He only agreed to it because the suits pressured him. Wings didn't sell as well as hoped in 1971/72, and the suits thought that was because people didn't know P Mc = Wings.

    He grudgingly agreed to make it "PM&W" - until 1973/74, when he topped the charts all over the place and changed it back to "Wings".

    Which is where it remained until the band ended in 1980...
  11. JohnQVD

    JohnQVD is adjusting to having a fully manual turntable

    Buffalo, NY
    When I used a player that used sort tags, I had them sorted as “McCartney, Paul” and “McCartney, Paul and Wings.” They’d some up together, but with the Wings, etc. stuff pulled out from the others.

    With the player I’m using now, they all just show up wherever they show up.
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  12. lightbulb

    lightbulb Not the Brightest of the Bunch

    Smogville CA USA
    File under “M”.
  13. kpa272

    kpa272 Forum Resident

    Austin, TX
    All Paul. "M"
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  14. Farmer Mike

    Farmer Mike Forum Resident

    I had an employee that was dead set against filing Wings albums under McCartney and also he wanted the Young Rascals and the Rascals filed separately. Was sure we'd lose sales as some people might not know McCartney was Wings. Not sure if he was completely serious or just being a PITA for kicks. Left for school after a few months.
  15. aphexj

    aphexj Sound mind & body

    Tag the "Album Artist" as Paul McCartney, then tag "Artist" with whatever it's supposed to be. That way you can search them or sort them depending on your mood, while still grouping everything under one name. Easy. For physical copies you have to make a more difficult choice...
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  16. Farmer Mike

    Farmer Mike Forum Resident

    73-74 is when the records got better, so it's hard to point to a name change, it probably didn't hurt.
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  17. musicfan37

    musicfan37 Senior Member

    I have them in the order of release from McCartney to his recent album.
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  18. Dr. Bogenbroom

    Dr. Bogenbroom I'm not a Dr. but I play one on SteveHoffman.TV

    Anchor Point
    I'm with your employee. Wings and Paul Mc are two different "library catalog" entries. I'd say most people aren't savvy enough to make the connection and will look for whatever alphabet letter falls off the tongue first. Same with your other example.
    Now, if he refused to bypass the word "the" in band names...then I'd say he was just being a PITA.
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  19. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

    Levittown. NY
    ....couldn't have said it better. At best, Paul tried to make the illusion SEEM like reality. It didn't quite get there.
  20. Farmer Mike

    Farmer Mike Forum Resident

    I was managing a store, not a library. If it meant that the couple people out of a hundred that didn't know that Wing's were McCartney's band, and had to ask for help, I was willing to take that risk. We filed the Young Rascals stuff under the Rascals, I doubt we missed much in sales. At least one manager had a Young Rascals header card that directed customers to the Rascals. Plus this was back when there were actually employee's on the sales floor, so again I doubt we lost much, if anything, in sales.
  21. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

    Levittown. NY
    It was categorically "Paul McCartney and Wings" for one album, Red Rose Speedway in 1973 and one single, Live and Let Die.
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  22. 93curr

    93curr Senior Member

    Wings was a band, but after 'Wild Life' didn't sell well enough, EMI decided that putting Paul's name front and centre would help increase sales. After 'My Love' got to #1 in the US and 'Band On The Run' became a runaway hit album worldwide, they backed off.
  23. 93curr

    93curr Senior Member


    Look at that label - Red Rose Speedway-Wings - followed by 'Paul McCartney and Wings' which looks like it was added as an afterthought. The back cover of the album even reads "Wings Fan Club" not Paul McCartney fan club!
  24. 93curr

    93curr Senior Member

    Paul McCartney - The Family Way
    Paul McCartney - McCartney
    Paul & Linda McCartney - Ram
    Wings - Wild Life
    Wings - Red Rose Speedway
    Wings - Band On The Run
    Wings - Venus And Mars
    Wings - Wings At The Speed Of Sound
    Wings - Wings Over America
    Wings - Rock Show
    Percy "Thrills" Thrillington - Thrillington
    Wings - London Town
    Wings - Back To The Egg
    Paul McCartney - McCartney II
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  25. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur!

    Lotus Land
    I don't own any of them, so I am set.

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