When adding stuff to discogs collection, how do you know if you have the right version?

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  1. Brian Hoffman

    Brian Hoffman Obsessive fanatic extraordinaire

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    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Wow, glad it's not just me. I have a hard time knowing when something is a new version versus just a variant. I have added some entries and been corrected by some kind souls until I edited it to the discogs god's satisfaction, but it's still treading in uncertain waters. All the same, I'm glad it exists and have sold quite a bit on there.
     
  2. ukozcd

    ukozcd Jedi

    Location:
    Australia
    The search panel is quite useful, You can search part of matrix number as well as artist/title to reduce your search results.

    The problems is the results you get are dependent on how detailed the submissions are.

    I go on and check my items in my collection or items that I have for sale. I will correct them in most cases eg Australia to Australasia - incorrect catalogue numbers etc.

    Some people just seem to want to comment on your submission and pick the flaws rather than update themselves.
     
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  4. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

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    Dayton, Ohio USA
    It's on the master release page.
    Only other Benny Goodman Trio EP I saw with the same artwork was a German copy,
    but it had different songs.
    I even tried to do a search for the EP on Discogs using all 4 song titles,
    but just came up with the LP.

    Darryl
     
  5. Correct. The MR has only LP editions.
     
  6. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

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    Dayton, Ohio USA
    I first tried to add on the singles/EPs page, but there was no link.

    Darryl
     
  7. If there will be anoter different EP (label or Cat#) with the same tracks submitted then a new MR for EP's can be created.
     
  8. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

    Location:
    Dayton, Ohio USA
    After I spend time preparing to add a version of an album to the database...I find out it's already in the database,
    but did not come up on my initial search. Frustrating. :doh:

    Darryl
     
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  9. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    Toronto
    Use Google as it's far easier/faster to find what you need. For instance, let's say I'm looking for a specific pressing, I use matrix info in my search. Let's say the matrix says 123456789-012 D5P-67, I'd look for the name of the band of album along with D5P-67 so what I type in Google would look like this.

    site:discogs.com band "D5P-67"

    If there's more than one pressing featuring that D5P-67 tag, you can always look for the other portion of the matrix. More often than not, the pressing you have already exists in the database so search strings like the one above will assist you in saving huge amounts of time.
     
  10. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

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    Dayton, Ohio USA
  11. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
  12. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    B.C.
  13. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

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    Dayton, Ohio USA
    I have the blue vinyl. Rarely comes up for sale.

    Darryl
     
  14. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Not a good idea. But I think if it is just one of those details is off, and the item will sell fairly quickly thus it being a soon moot issue, then I think it can fly temporarily. But if everyone did this it would harm the database long term.

    I did a Melodiya LP that my copy was a different color label than the one shown. But exact same matrixes in runout. I decided to add mine to that entry because mine was an earlier more desirable label, mine was stone mint, and likely to sell quickly at $50 with only one other offer from Russian for $75 in worse condition. I simply mentioned that my Stone Mint LP was the desirable blue label original from the USSR. This entry had no LP cover picture. I was about to enter a nice quality scan of my cover but decided against it since it could possibly have a variation against that existing label's cover. I was learning about how to copy an entry, edit it, and enter this other earlier label, and then the $50 copy sold. So I was glad to get that one over and done with.

    But I have a stack of LPs I need to enter and create a fresh page for. Now I understand that all you need to find is something with plenty of the same info to use as a draft. Like one LP I have is not in the database, but a CD version is. I can grab that, change the format, and track numbering and cat# and it's ready to go. Oh and add a picture, but that can wait until later if need be.

    This process with get easier as I do more of them.
     
  15. greelywinger

    greelywinger Osmondia

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    Dayton, Ohio USA
    Just added matrix info on my latest addition. It’s good to know how to add matrix info.

    Darryl
     
  16. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    I scan at 600 dpi - then reduce to 5" x 5" and 300 dpi, then upload to Discogs and my pics look better than most and display nice and sharp. I have a large format scanner that can handle LP covers.

    I just did 6 new entries to Discgs. I entered a few LPs that were in the database, exact LP of original issues, but mine is on colored vinyl. So I uploaded the scan of the colored disc first as the main photo and front and back covers after. I may as well make it stand out as something different when I have one to unload.
     
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  17. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    I've run into a small problem. My new entries went well and look good. But they are separate LPs in the artist's catalog, and not a part of the master release. They still need to be entered into that, or merged into it I guess?
     
  18. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Ok, I had an other very minor issue.

    This is what I did.

    I went into edit, made a draft copy and saved it, and then went in to do the edits to match my release. For some, I have an LP, when the only entry is a CD. Others I have a stereo LP when the only thing they have is a mono copy.

    So I did six drafts and saved my work I guess but did not submit yet.

    I went to dinner and had a wonderful time out from this. I came back and did scans of the fronts, backs, and labels of the given releases so they would be standout visually, and be appreciated by others who are into this stuff more than I am.

    Then I got ready to add my pics, and then submit. but when I went into my inventory and selected Drafts from the pulldown menu, these recent drafts were not there on the list. To get to this list easily I am not sure. So h9ow I got to the le draft list to see these, is I created another draft that I have no need for, but just to save it and get me to my record drafts list.

    Where would I go to find this list of work I have done but no yet submitted? The drafts list?
     
  19. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
    B.C.
    :shrug: Mine have always just seemed to show up. Eventually a staff member does add it to the master release so I'm uncertain how to advise on this particular issue, sorry.
     
  20. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Sorry, for this one I do not know.
     
  21. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Typing fast on cell, that was another pretty bad looking typo-ridden post.

    Anyway, at least I figured out a way to get to them by creating a draft I don't need. I can go back and delete them.

    I'm going to do one more of them tonight. Doing the scans first this time.

    I lately usually just do cell phone pictures and they come out well if I am working with a lot of daylinght. But I am working at night right now.
     
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  22. Go to your profile and select drafts. If the drafts have been saved they are there. If not they are lost and erased by the system.

    To add an Item to the MR:
    - make a note of the sub # of your Item
    - go to the MR (Masterrelease)
    - click on edit MR
    - click again on edit that window ---> all Items listed in the MR will appear
    - Add your # to the row of listed numbers
    - click on save
    Hope this helps
     
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  23. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Thanks, no my drifts were not lost they were saved. There are two different sections containing diff drafts. The Dashboard line has them, and the inventory selector - all, draft, for sale, and sold has them,

    I'll attach my new additions to the MR when I get a minute. I'm adding more tonight, as I got on a roll with the scanner and pulled out some rare ones to play around with.
     

  24. Go to your Discogs profile and select "drafts"
     
  25. vinylontubes

    vinylontubes Forum Resident

    Location:
    Katy, TX
    There is a precedent of information that dictates which release any records should match. The first is the label and catalog numbers. After this you go with matrix information. So a variants of a release would be the same pressing and from the same factory but the matrix may differ because multiple stampers were used to meet the release. A repressing is a delayed release of the initial pressing. A repressing will use the same mastering as the original release, but artwork my have changed. Maybe there didn't have the original labels, so later pressing used the generic label. You will begin to understand this stuff with experience. I would recommend people not add releases if they are unsure which release to Add to their Collections. Instead, just pick one, the one that is probably right. But in your release add a note that you need to verify this at a later time. This will keep thing moving along. And after you've learned more about different release in Discogs, you can go back to those suspect entries by using search tools.
     
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