Where (and what) constitutes the divide between early and late era Beatles for you?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Kim Olesen, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. andy749

    andy749 Forum Resident

    Their last concert. A new era began then. SFF/Penny Lane was first release.
  2. williamjoel

    williamjoel Forum Resident

    Orlando, FL
    I would amend this thusly:

    A - PPM to Beatles For Sale (The Boy Band Albums)

    B - Help, Rubber Soul, Revolver (The Folk-Rock Albums)

    C - Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, Yellow Submarine (The Psychedelic Albums)

    D - White Album, Let It Be, Abbey Road (The Solo Albums)
  3. humpf

    humpf Allowed to write something here.


    A - PPM to A Hard Day's Night (amphetamins)

    B - For Sale to Rubber Soul (marihuana)

    C - Revolver, Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, Yellow Submarine (LSD)

    D - White Album, Let It Be, Abbey Road (heroin)

    (not exactly serious, but in case of John Lennon it roughly fits)
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  4. The Rain/Paperback Writer single, which, I believe was released before the Revolver album.
  5. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

    Since we're getting silly, I propose:

    A - PPM to A Hard Day's Night --- Tight trousers
    B - Help, Rubber Soul, Revolver --- Relaxed-fit jeans
    C - Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, Yellow Submarine --- Tie-dyed pajama bottoms
    D - White Album, Let It Be, Abbey Road --- Ripped-up, dirty bell bottoms

  6. Helmut

    Helmut Well-Known Member

    For me the dividing line for music would be the single "Paperback Writer/Rain". Although there was also another line before "Help".

    But there is also another dividing line in their career. Today you only meet male Beatles fans with huge collections and everything. I don't know any woman with a Beatles collection.
    But watching old concerts the Beatles seemed only seemed to have girls as fans. So when did that change set in?
  7. *Zod*

    *Zod* Forum Resident

    Connecticut, USA
    the Sitar
    the first second it plucks, that's the later era Beatles
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  8. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

    South Florida
    Probably when they grew the beards and lost the tight pants.
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  9. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk If you fly a flag of hate you ain't no kin to me

    I cannot lump Rubber Soul and Revolver with the earlier albums nor can I group then with Sgt. Pepper and beyond albums so I guess for me those are the transition point between early and late period Beatles although we are really only talking about a seven or eight year period in total.
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  10. Haristar

    Haristar Apollo C. Vermouth

    Southampton, UK
    Early: Please Please Me > Beatles for Sale
    Middle: I Feel Fine single > Revolver
    Late: Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever single > Let It Be
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  11. Agree with above!

    When I'm 64 was written many years before Pepper, Lady Madonna could have been recorded in in 1963, early BeAtle singles like IWTHYH and SHe Loves You are musically complex, The White Album is the clincher, as it spans the history of Rock on two vinyl discs - early- mid -late - whatever - Beatle Music was always evolving forward, reaching back and transforming it all.

    As a wise man once said : "I go back so far- I'm in front of me."
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  12. Not to overemphasize drugs among all the other factors influencing their growth and evolution (and in some respects, regression), but this nails it exactly...
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  13. LOL

    Early- Rickenbackers

    Mid - Epiphones

    Late- Gibson/Fenders
  14. mc7t

    mc7t Forum Resident

    Stoke on Trent,UK
    Moustaches :D

    Seriously though..Those late 1966 interviews outside Abbey Road studios are the defining point for me.
    They almost look like a completely different band.
  15. Haristar

    Haristar Apollo C. Vermouth

    Southampton, UK
    Yeah the moustaches and the long hair pretty much define late Beatles for me.
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  16. Psychsound

    Psychsound Forum Resident

    New Paltz, NY
    This is exactly how I break it down, four separate phases, made easier because it is broken up by years: 1963-64; 1965-66; 1967; 1968-1970.
  17. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

    South Florida
    How long before we get 12 phases? :winkgrin:
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  18. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Forum Resident

    Cypress, Texas
    For me, between the American Rubber Soul and Revolver.
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  19. Dr. Pepper

    Dr. Pepper What, me worry?

    Interesting post! I think there is a two-fold answer to this. First The Beatles were always popular with boys, but girls were such rabid fans that they would camp out and snag most all of the concert tickets. It also became apparent very quickly that a guy at a beatles concert was not a cool thing. Like a guy going to a New Kids On The Block concert.

    Second I think girls started jumping off the band wagon in droves and guys started jumping on in equal fashion when the Beatles entered their second phase around the Revolver era. I think since that time a re-evaluation of the mop top era albums has happened by male music fans much like Paul's Ram has gained in stature after it's initial release.
  20. The Hole Got Fixed

    The Hole Got Fixed Owens, Poell, Saberi

    Help and Rubber Soul.
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  21. Tonmeister

    Tonmeister Forum Resident

    New York
    Princes: PPM-Help

    Kings: Rubber Soul-MMT

    Old Testament Prophets: White Album-Let It Be
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  22. milankey

    milankey Forum Resident

    Kent, Ohio, USA
    I don't care if they had mustaches or not. I agree with those who say it changed when the touring stopped.
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  23. Gems-A-Bems

    Gems-A-Bems Forum Resident

    The Duke City
    Perhaps it would be more accurate to say the early era decreases as the cannabis increases - an inversely proportional relationship.
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    MONOLOVER Forum Resident

    Ticket To Ride. Slower and with a new kind of lyrics. Much influenced by Dylan and pot I guess.
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  25. leeroy jenkins

    leeroy jenkins Forum Resident

    The United States
    Revolver and Pepper. With the red and blue comps I think they did it perfectly.
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