Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bosskeenneat, Feb 6, 2015.
The British Invasion changed everything. Paul Anna is fine. But here come The DC5
Not disliked by me...
Great idea for a thread. I will admit to giving this period short shrift myself for quite a long time. Not anymore. It was in black and white and how could it compete with The Yes Album? To use a baseball analogy this period could be compared to Spring Training. A mere warm-up act. Much of what happened in the mid '60s to the late '70s might look like a great World Series.
I even have a friend, a Beatle's freak to boot, that once told me With The Beatles is still a little too early for him. Not to knock him, but I was shocked to hear it.
For me it was exploring great jazz recordings and Frank Sinatra to understand that the early rock and roll might be worth a bit of exploration as well. Although I always liked Frank as my parents played a lot of his records. And let's not forget, the industry seemed to forget about them as well. Those decisions, not to repress or stock these titles had a tremendous impact. Of course they probably never imagined that stuff that came soon after that era would have such staying power. Part of the throwaway society thinking along with a kind of planned obsolescence.
Including Bob Dylan?
Paul Anka's run of hits ended long before 1964....
Forgot about him but no, I was referring to the likes of Bobby Curtola, Bobby Rydell, Bobby Darin to name a few.
"The Beatles" ["The British Invasion"] just dominated teen (old folk today) interest. By the time "Rock" started to dominate younger listeners of the day later in the decade, Early Sixties & Fifties music just seemed to "Poppy".
Shame "Rockers" like Eddie Cochran & Link Wray weren't followed/remembered as well at the time or now for that matter!
"New & Improved"
Whata U gonna do?!?!
Forgetting/dismissing the past is a past time!
"The Beatles ruined everything."
-- John Waters
John Waters was obviously clueless.
I was born in '60-We lived with AM radio strong music influence, 2'45 pop / rock/roll tunes designed to play on a large hole 45 rpm disc and coin machine, then, along came FM and the "latest" hip music, not meant for that stackable RCA player, but album rock. I think the coolness of this era really contributed to the late 50's early 60's American Graffiti era becoming parents "oldies". Sinatra and Cole were squares and jazz was Herb Alpert.. I was a dedicated 45 buyer, and proud of it, Not gonna make me buy those extra songs no one knows", Yes I was wrong, but trained by the Big 8 CKLW..That early 60's era was "clean cut", and then came those unkempt mop tops..yeah yeah yeah, who were obviously influenced by all that preceded them..I love the early 60's, and the beatles, and the four freshmen, motown and sinatra and basie..Gosh, I just love music!!
Early '60s greats: The Shadows, Ventures, Spotnicks, Champs, Johnny & The Hurricanes, Duane Eddy, Wailers, Frantics, Trashmen, Surfaris, Dick Dale, Dynamics... in other words GREAT INSTROS! What's not to like?
Indeed. Who is he anyway?
To Google I go...
I recognise him, a bit of a hypocrite:
John Waters pays homage to the Beatles
Maybe a stupid question, but I'm still new around here. But has this forum ever done a year by year sixties poll? And then I'm not referring to people voting for songs from the top 25 of the Billboard chart from 1965 or something, but users submitting their own lists of favorite albums and songs.
I just realized that Jamaican ska starts coming out in the pre-British Invasion era. Not that many folks were listening to it in the U.S.A., but that would eventually prove a boon for rock n' roll.
I really had no idea that the early 60s were widely disliked. That's sure not the case at my house, and it wasn't when I was growing up. Early 60s and prior is right in my dad's music fan wheelhouse, so I heard a ton of that stuff growing up and I love all of it. My dad's a huge fan of early rock & roll, doo-wop, R&B, blues, soul, rockabilly, country etc. He was (and still is) a huge singles collector and we had (and he still has) a few different vintage jukeboxes at home, which would be loaded with all sorts of delights from those genres I mentioned.
Most of the black artists weren't affected by the British Invasion.
Admittedly, Ben E. King and Chuck Jackson's popularity started to wane, but JB and most of the Stax and Motown artists just got bigger, if anything.
Also pre-Beatles, I think of some great vocalist recordings such as by Roy Orbison and Patsy Cline!
Confusing this John Waters with film director JohnWaters (Pink Flamingos, etc.)
I thought it was a strange one! Who is the Beatles hating one?
Filmmaker John Waters made the Beatles quote.
He preferred the stuff prior to the Beatles and he felt their popularity obscured those acts.
I see. Guilty by association.
Reopened by request
The early sixties were a time of transition. The hoary old cliche about the "establishment" taking down Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis--while Little Richard turned to God--and replacing them with the likes of Frankie Avalon and Fabian is cheesy, but it was a fact that the old, original rockers were replaced on radio and in the record shops by the teen idols.
Most of the elements that would lead to the great music of the "the 60's" were already in place by 1962 or so--The Beatles and The Beach Boys and Stevie Wonder were recording Motown was a thing. The Stones were playing.Dylan put out his debut and he was already on the rise. The folk music scene in the US and the blues scene in England were already established , and some of it's players would be household names in a few years.
So I think the early 60's are given little respect because--from the vantage point of the present-- what was just around the corner is perceived as revolutionary. The fact that the 1960's saw great societal change as well burnishes the credibility of music --even if it wasn't overtly political itself.
It somehow seems more "serious" than the teen idols and Phil Spector and his (now dated) "Wall of Sound."
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