Why Does Good Remote Control Design Elude so Many Companies?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Helom, Jul 15, 2022.

  1. aunitedlemon

    aunitedlemon Enjoyer of driver excursions.

    Location:
    Oregon
    That BRAMA amp is one of the most attractive pieces of audio gear I've seen. If I ever find myself in a position to spend $30k+ on an amp, it'll be heard first. The remote looks pretty nice too.
     
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  2. MGW

    MGW Less travelling, more listening

    Location:
    Scotland, UK
    We have one of those and as I posted up thread found it immediately intuitive to use. Different strokes, I guess!
     
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  3. mled

    mled Forum Resident

    Location:
    San Francisco
    This from Amazon; replaced tv, cd, and preamp remotes. Learning remote so you can program each button to any other IR command from your existing remotes. My system is simple so pre volume, tv channel and oppo dvd basic functions are all on this one -
    CHUNGHOP L102 Learning Remote Control Use for TV/SAT/DVD/CBL/CD/DVB-T for Samsung LG Sony Philips Copy
     
  4. Old Zorki II

    Old Zorki II Storm Watcher

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    near Tampa, FL
    His is great.. The stupid Aron remote has just one button I use - to turn 24/192 on and off. Normally I like it off, but there are may be 10% of recordings when oversampling sounds better, and the only way o tell that is by pressing remote while seating …
     
  5. BilboAlaska

    BilboAlaska Forum Resident

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    Alaska
    It is easier to adjust the volume from the listening position. Also change it as mentioned already.
     
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  6. rangda

    rangda Forum Resident

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    MA
    I use my remote to adjust volume all the time. Mono/stereo as well although that is more due to forgetfulness than an actual need.
     
  7. COBill

    COBill Forum Resident

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    Colorado, USA
    Could be… I'm an engineer and can't say I've ever used a truly bad remote.

    Personally I detest decontented remotes; the best ones are the ones that allow you to access virtually any feature from a dedicated button.

    I don't really like the newer LG TV remotes where you have to move a cursor around the screen Wii-like.
     
  8. Tim S

    Tim S Senior Member

    Location:
    East Tennessee
    Roku got it right.
     
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  9. lv70smusic

    lv70smusic Senior Member

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    San Francisco, CA
    Comparing streaming device remotes, I much preferred Roku's to either Amazon's or Apple's. Apple's is actually the worst. Not being a regular Apple customer, I'm frankly a bit surprised that a company with a reputation for making easy user interfaces designed a remote that's so frustrating to use at times.
     
  10. MacGyver

    MacGyver Forum Resident

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    IRRIGON, OR. U.S.
    PIONEER's 1987/1991 CU-AV100 series. rugged, reliable, flexible in it's programmability, and looks and feels like it means business all around;

    (CU-VSX007 derivative model depicted)

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  11. Most of the Pioneer remotes I’ve had previously provided comprehensive “functionality”.
     
  12. zombiemodernist

    zombiemodernist Forum Resident

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    Northeastern USA
    For volume I actually like my Apple remote these days the best. The newest one that is:

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    Much nicer to use than the previous generations being harder to fumble and thicker to hold. Controls my Apple TV fully and my integrated’s volume via IR which I also use for light HT duty. Doesn’t distract me with too many buttons when all I need is volume usually.

    My integrated being a Yamaha doesn’t have too bad of a remote, as others have commented they seem to be one of the few competent mainstream manufacturers. Still, guess what, even as a designer I’ll take a crappy remote over no remote. Years of being a “vintage only” guy lets me appreciate any remote really.
     
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  13. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark

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    Central PA
    Don't like the ones for the Ultra, though...too easy to accidentally hit those side buttons! :mad:
     
  14. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark

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    Central PA
    By the way, have you thought of this: a little velcro on the back of all your remotes...and stick 'em onto a clipboard, or even the bottom of your teevee tray! :righton:
     
  15. ibanez_ax

    ibanez_ax Forum Resident

    Fast forward to 25 seconds.

     
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  16. My preamplifier comes supplied with a relatively light but quite capably functional plastic remote. You can order a much more substantial remote metallic “upgrade” for about 10 times the price.
    Being a rather fumbling old guy and seeing that I could order replacement original plastic remotes for $20 I now have the original and two backups in case if damage or loss.

    Although I’ve had heavy metal “brick” like remotes before I actually feel more comfortable and secure with this situation.

    BTW I’m still using the first remote and I don’t see it misfunctioning any time soon. Seems like a win win.
     
  17. BilboAlaska

    BilboAlaska Forum Resident

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    Alaska
    I use the iPhone as a streaming remote. Using BlueOS app or Auralic app. Works great with display etc.
     
  18. MattHooper

    MattHooper Forum Resident

    Location:
    Canada
    Just ordered one!

    The earlier apple tv remote, which I've been using, is utterly maddening to use sometimes. I've lost count how many times I've pressed wrong buttons as that teeny remote slips around in my hands (that is when I can find it between the sofa cushions).
     
  19. I use one of the aftermarket “casebot” covers. Makes all the difference.
     
  20. VU Master

    VU Master Senior Member

    My favorite remote is the one that came with my Oppo player. When you pick it up the buttons all light up which is great at night. Everything is clearly labeled and easy to use. A lot of buttons, but they're very clearly labeled so I don't mind. And yes, I use the OPEN button a lot because it can take a while for the machine to unload, and pressing it before I walk over gives my life 5 more seconds of free time. :agree:

    I hate remotes with tiny little labels that are printed in a color that doesn't stand out. The "sculpted" one that came with my LG TV fits the hand nicely and it's easy to know where the buttons are without looking.

    But it's true that remotes seem to be the ignored stepchild in AV gear. I think it's just very lazy design, and absence of real world testing.

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  21. thebisch

    thebisch Forum Resident

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    upstate ny
    Why?
     
  22. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Sultan Of Snark

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    Central PA
    So you can take 3 of them out of your way when you're only using two others. We're not "coffee-table people". Just two nice, jumbo TV trays in both rooms. This saves clutter.
     
  23. AP1

    AP1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    TX
    With complexity of modern electronic devices and number of possible adjustment, it is time to abandon remotes altogether. Proper solution will be to use app for tablet or phone. Even if someone wants a dedicated device - cheap tables are available in $100 range and one unit can be used to unlimited number of devices to control.
     
  24. bever70

    bever70 It's not all about The Soundstage

    Location:
    Belgium
    Nice, but it looks like a simplified b&o remote from....30 years ago with the screen. So, not that unique.
     
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  25. Tim 2

    Tim 2 MORE MUSIC PLEASE

    Location:
    Alberta Canada
    Not sure what kind of equipment some are purchasing but I've got no complaint with the remotes I use.

    I miss the old days of Mark Levinson's 2 pound $1000 remotes.

    Ayre's remotes are also light up.
     
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