Why Giles Won’t Remix Rubber Soul/Revolver

Wrong. Get the facts straight.

 

Revolver mixed without a Fairchild; makes you want to puke crimson and clover, don't it?

 

Correct - I see that now.

 

I recall earlier this year that Peter Jackson reported that his team was able to separate dialogue from guitar noodling from a mono tape.
If the technology for Giles to do what he envisions doesn't exist, it will soon. Something to look forward to - and so, in the meantime, after Get Back/ Let it Be we will have a completely unpredictable Beatles project. I'm fine with Rubber Soul / Revolver being on the back burner because it means 2022 will deliver something unexpected. Works for me.

 

…the most famous four track album ever. I remember an ad that first came out in the seventies touting TEAC’s four track reel to reel…it said, to paraphrase, that you could create your own Sgt. Pepper. Of course they didn’t mention you needed an external mixing board to make it sound half way decent (even though you could do internal bouncing through the machine itself).

 

I was wrong on the tracks - it is 4.

I was right on Giles. Hired because of his father when we have people like Hoffman, Gray, Grundman and Bell available.

 

Revolver fans thank him.

 

wow, that freaking sucks. What a stupid damn shame.

 

it's not a matter of being an expert...when the work one does SUCKS and one knows the music that was screwed with inside and out they are entitled to their opinion on what qualifies as poor workmanship on their beloved music...you don't need to be qualified to know when a remix sucks...royally. It's like they have no idea what the music was all about to begin with...next time call us out instead of making a general insult...

 

Except this is the same person that says he wants to redo the Sgt. Pepper remix. I respect him and appreciate his work continuing his father's legacy but this is disappointing.

 

I just am seeing subjective opinions here based on cranky Beatles fans, nothing that proves to me that what his remixes are, are shoddy workmanship

 

fair enough...you have an opinion and so do I and never the twain shall meet. : ) and I am not Cranky! ; )

 

Why not do what you can with the 4-track tapes? 3,2,1 of Michelle shows us how good the multis sound. Why de-mix? This is from the guy who used the back channels of Pepper remix mostly for ambiance anyway!

 

EXACTLY and we can add Steven Wilson!

 

dude? geez...: )

 

I'm glad he's hand off on these albums.......His Let it be butchering will be the 1st I own, due to being on film

 

Using some digital voodoo to create a new mix of these records seems contradictory to the common desire for AAA. I suppose you could use AI to sample the entire Beatles catalog and create all new Beatles songs. Tour the album with holograms. Welcome to the machine.

 

In addition to a mixer, one would need 2 four-track reel to reels synched together to get to pepperland.

So in a sense, yes, Sgt. Peppers was recorded on four track, it’s just that there were 2 of them.

 

It's the difference between doing vocal tracks with a speaker in the studio and vocals with the backing in the cans.

 

I think the original mono and stereo mixes of Rubber Soul are sufficient enough, though I do like the YSS remix of "Nowhere Man" and the Anthology DVD remix of "In My Life". It could be remixed in the analog domain with the vocals centered, like the stereo mixes of the previous three albums.

Revolver, on the other hand....I think a well-executed remix would be nice. We've heard what can be done ("Yellow Submarine" and "Love You To" on YSS, "For No One" on the Anthology DVD).

 

I could be wrong but...

I believe it was done, to use two examples, with Pet Sounds and Sgt. Pepper.

The prebounce reels had either been copied or preserved.

It is my understanding that, in the case of the Beach Boys, 7 tracks of vocals had been bounced down to a single mono vocal track to create space to record music. Somehow the individual vocal tracks were recovered.

Obviously one can't 'unmix' a 1/4-inch master reel or a 'bounced down' multitrack, but a remix can be done from original source tapes; e.g. the string sessions for Sgt. Pepper.

 

Good idea. Though... they're already broad!
What now?

 

Some albums are not meant to be remixed.

 

The great thing about the Beatles is that whatever format you've heard them in (and personally I prefer all of the original versions sanctioned by the band itself when it was an active and ongoing entity) the songs, performances, musicianship, and spirit will always triumph above all.

 

It is fine if you prefer stereo, but your statement suggests you haven't even heard a good surround mix to be honest