Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Deuce66, Dec 8, 2019.
He co-wrote the movie and set the tone for the DCEU
I scored it a 5 myself. Finally saw it earlier this week when it came to Redbox and I could rent the blu-ray for $2.
I agree. I don't know that this needed Snyder, but I think letting Patty Jenkins do the writing all by herself was a mistake. Why didn't the writing team who did the first one (of which she was a part) do this one also?
That's a bit unfair.
I watched Justice League three times just for the leather pants.
First time I noticed her was in Fast and Furious wearing a bikini.
Script / story was appallingly bad. What was the significance of “ 1984” sorta George Orwell reference, or what. Didn’t even look like the early eighties.
Think a better story would have been set during WW 2.
That's what I was thinking. But the wife rented it to watch with our (college age) son who also was not interested in going out of his way to see it.
joss whedon wrote/directed the avengers to great acclaim. came in to salvage justice league. even he couldn't fix it.
So how does her lasso of truth grab onto lightning bolts as if they were a metal pole? Did she do that in the comics?
Saw it in the theater. I enjoyed it. Nothing earth shattering. The first movie was better, in my opinion.
Rote and generic. Story felt padded out and not very strong to begin with. Plot holes aplenty. A WWI Pilot can instantly fly a jet? Really? Kristin Wiig wasted as the villain. Okay action entertainment but jettisons everything great and special about the first movie. Even Gal comes off as pretty bland. Like Captain Marvel and the last Spiderman movie, just kind of MEH. I am starting to think Super Hero movies have reached their plateau and the slow decline has begun.
This movie is a massive come down from the great first one. Everything worked in the original and everything here is a mess.
I wonder if they felt pressured to make the movie so long to justify charging people $25 or $30 dollars for it at home. Because it seems to me that if your film is going to be this much of a mess with multiple plot holes you might as well just put out a campy 90 minute version and move on.
The relationship and acting between Diana and Steve was so perfect in the first movie and the ending was so moving. So it feels like something that should be left in that original story, bringing Steve back cheapens that. But if you're going to do it, this morphing into some other guy is questionable and off putting.
A major problem with WW84 is the total lack of good characters. The three guys that went on the adventure with Steve and Diana in the 2017 film were all great. Each was given enough character and shading as was necessary without a lot of dialogue or screen time. Etta Candy was really good as well.
You don't want comparable characters in a sequel but ones you care about. There's nobody like that in WW84.
As villians Danny Huston and Doctor Poison were well cast and utilized.
Pedro Pascal is an actor I'm not familiar with (although this is the fourth movie I've seen that he's in) and he's terrible. And I don't blame him, I blame the direction.
Because I think Gal Gadot is perfectly capable of selling this role. And she's generally fine here. But the scene where she says goodbye to Steve, she completely fails to sell the pain and drama. These look like outtakes where the director would take you aside and coach you into a better performance. How were these takes viewed as acceptable for a finished film?
Just a total mess.
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