Worst RSD 2019 releases.

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by pauluz, Apr 14, 2019.

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  1. Terry

    Terry Senior Member

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    I made it through five sides. Not even going to try Jimi. Huge waste of money.
     
  2. Phil Tate

    Phil Tate Miss you Indy x

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    South Shields
    That should be a pretty big clue that it will sound like junk!
     
  3. Sammy Waslow

    Sammy Waslow Just watching the show

    Location:
    Ireland
    Ha ha ha! Through the Past Darkly. "Cutting corners". ;):)
    :hide:
     
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  4. Jgirar01

    Jgirar01 Forum Resident

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    Dallas, Texas
    Well, the mono Woodstock has a 4.9 out of 5 rating with 11 ratings posted on discogs. Wonder if they actually listened to it before rating it. Maybe this will help me to sell mine there!
     
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  5. carlo

    carlo Forum Resident

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    germany
    My EU pressing is fine. It sounds better than it looks. No clicks. Just a view hairlines because of the original inner sleeve.
     
  6. Glass Candy

    Glass Candy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Greensboro
    That's not what it is tho, and that bizarre descriptor should have been the red flag.
    The PA system at Woodstock was not mono, and even if it was, where did the source come from? Someone standing in front of the PA?
    It is a bastardisation of the term soundboard, in effect a monitor tape for reference purposes. But this isn't even just a collection of those sources, it is edited together with mono rough mixes and parts of the promo folddown. This has NOTHING to do with what people in the audience heard.
    A collection of totally unedited versions of the material from the original album, in good sound, might have been worthy. But this made an already primitive sounding album unlistenable, and mono has nothing to do with it.
    On the other hand, the Janis and Sly Woodstock releases were quite nice.
     
  7. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

    Location:
    Cambridge, MA
    I haven't paid close attention to the RSD releases this year, since I knew I wasn't going.

    But when I saw this thread I thought: "Mono Woodstock? Is this a joke?"

    The whole thing with mono isn't that mono is itself somehow superior. It's that there are some interesting/unique/superior mono mixes for music that was originally released up through the mid/late '60s. Not every mono is great, or even worth having. But there are some mono issues worth hearing for the superior presentation.

    But Woodstock? There was never a unique mono mix. There's a worthless fold down. And there are various mono bootlegs. None of which is superior to the released stereo mix.

    So what's the point of Woodstock in mono on vinyl? None. If you want mono, play the stereo version and hit the mono button on your receiver.

    This is the kind of release that serves as strong evidence for the argument that RSD has devolved into a way for labels to sell worthless old wine in new bottles.

    I can't wait for mono "Frampton Comes Alive" "newly mixed to mono from the original stereo mixdown masters!"
     
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  8. MikeT

    MikeT Prior Forum Cretin and Current Impatient Creep

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    Ok. I purchased the "mono" Woodstock release, and listened to the first LP. To me this isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be. I don't know the sources used for the mix, yes it could be a folddown, but overall I didn't think it sounded bad - it is what it is considering it was taking from some tape source that was recorded in dire conditions 50 years ago.

    Is it a necessary release - obviously not. I'm not sure how many times I would play this, considering I have the original LP, the MFSL CD version, a multitude of reissue box sets on both vinyl and CD (and video). A money grab, in some ways yes - am I as ticked off about buying it as others - absolutely not.

    And, once again it isn't a sonic masterpiece, yet it isn't as bad as I thought it would be based on others opinions. And so far the one LP I played was perfectly pressed.
     
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  9. rolli

    rolli Forum Resident

    This is disappointing. I bought the Woodstock release under the impression that it integrated the real Woodstock performances of a couple tracks (i.e. Arlo Guthrie, CSN) that were actually taken from other concerts... and for some reason the actual Mono P.A. mix aspect intrigued me... I had no idea what P.A. mix the audience was listening to at the event. You have to take some stuff on faith. And with RSD releases you can't wait until the reviews are in to make a decision to buy... you have to blindly leap into abyss right away.

    I haven't listened to it yet, but per this thread... seems I've been warned not to expect much... this release can't live up to the hype. It was pricey... I mean you can get an original used copy for a quarter of the price. Makes you feel like a mark. Maybe I should consider keeping it sealed and see if I can recoup my loss? Bummer.
     
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  10. MikeT

    MikeT Prior Forum Cretin and Current Impatient Creep

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    New Jersey, USA
    Personally, to me, it sounded like some of the cuts were different than the original Woodstock album, but then again it has been awhile since I listened to any Woodstock - but back in the day I listened to this album A LOT since it was released sometime after the show. I actually had a cassette version I would play over and over on my little portable cassette tape player back in the early 70's.
     
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  11. Glass Candy

    Glass Candy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Greensboro
    Expectations are a thing. If you expect nothing from the Woodstock set, you'll find a few things to enjoy. The full We're Not Gonna Take It is a first on an audio release I believe. Unfortunately it is too fast, in common with the bootleg soundboard. I think all the soundboard tracks were taken direct from bootlegs.
     
  12. Kevin j

    Kevin j The 5th 99

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    Seattle Area
    some people, maybe.
     
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  13. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    Levittown. NY
    ...aye aye aye...!!! ...gotta give it to you though...that *was* pretty funny:D
     
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  14. Further

    Further Forum Resident

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    Ontario, Canada
    All the people that answered Woodstock mono are right. It’s certainly the worst thing I bought this RSD and I actually collect all things Woodstock.

    Live and learn but I too was expecting something better than what we got here - definitely not a very good way to kick off the 50th anniversary but the worst of it is that some kid new to this stuff might buy this used and think wtf? Once you take the outer wrap off, there is nothing to warn you about the crap contained within or that it’s a different version of the soundtrack.

    I would hate to think someone who’s never heard the original would think this was the official soundtrack. The cover is an exact reproduction of the stereo version which, by the way, is a sonic gem compared to this catastrophe. They should have at least changed the artwork and put a steaming turd on the cover.

    Anyone still on the fence, don’t waste your time here - it’s an expensive way to satisfy your curiousity and most likely will never be played again.
     
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  15. Woodstock Mono even has a disclaimer sticker on it telling how $hitty it sounds.
     
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  16. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    Levittown. NY
    I have a copy that came from the massive box set a couple of years ago...sounds incredible.
     
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  17. misteranderson

    misteranderson Forum Resident

    Location:
    englewood, nj
    Well, the almost complete Hendrix performance has been around for a long time, in stereo, in pretty nice quality. I understand it's not warts 'n' all, every second Jimi and the band were onstage, but it'll do.

    I had the Woodstock RSD in hand ($60) on Saturday, thinking about it, but really happy I didn't go for it now. I see enough decent copies of the original, and Woodstock Two, which actually has a higher percentage of music I actually want.
     
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  18. scoutbb

    scoutbb Senior Member

    Location:
    LA
    So "Coming Into Los Angeles" by AG and "Sea of Madness" by CSNY are the same as original LP? They were advertised as original performances!!
    I was especially dying to hear SOM!! I know the original CILA is on the Yasgurs 6 CD set.
    Damn, I bought one on eBay for $63! Not happy.
     
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  19. ODShowtime

    ODShowtime jaded faded

    Location:
    Tampa
    That mono Woodstock smelled like doody to me from a mile away. I think they used the word "mono" as a mind trick there.
     
  20. Glass Candy

    Glass Candy Forum Resident

    Location:
    Greensboro
    Exactly the same, but rough mono mixes. How did the rumor start that they were different performances?
     
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  21. scoutbb

    scoutbb Senior Member

    Location:
    LA
    Read it on the long RSD thread. Can't remember post #.
     
  22. Marc Perman

    Marc Perman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Perhaps an unintended re-creation of the sanitary conditions there?
     
  23. Marc Perman

    Marc Perman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    I have this too. I can only compare it generally to the mono CD set, which IMO is marred by excessive bass. This is better balanced, but it’s consistent with what I think of as the “ABKCO DSD house sound”: better than most digital reissues but no match for original pressings. I have an original stereo UK Big Hits, so having a mono reissue was appealing.
     
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  24. Cool hand luke

    Cool hand luke There you go man, keep as cool as you can

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    Massachusetts
    I actually just became a member because i needed a support group after spending 60 plus tax on this dissapointment called woodstock mono pa. Wow its all over the place. There's actually a few things that sound very cool (sha na na for instance, imagine that!) But as others have said, some sounds downright atrocious (the who). And def some head scratchers with cutting out some spoken stuff, and adding other stuff. I made it through the first 2 albums, still have the third with the airplane, sly, butterfield and hendrix. Got my fingers crossed for something exciting and worth 60 bucks. And as others have said, what the hell was i expecting anyway? Just hoping for a little of that mono magic that has made me smile and given me goosebumps in the past, i guess. Shoulda known better on this one... hopefully they redeem it somehow with a worthy 50th anniversary release.
     
  25. GentleSenator

    GentleSenator what if

    Location:
    Aloha, OR
    thankfully i feel like i had all of the necessary information to make well informed choices prior to purchasing. i targeted the AAA and RTI pressed stuff and i've yet to be disappointed. i knew that bob dylan "test pressing" was going to be a problem as soon as i saw the packaging so i didn't bother.
     
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