DCC Archive ZZ Top Gnus?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Chippoh, Sep 15, 2001.

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  1. Chippoh

    Chippoh Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I'm sorry if I have asked this before, but I admit that I am a pest...

    I have been waiting for sum intelijent outfit to release the "Top" catalog in its original state...Steve, can you share any words on DCC's possible quest into the Top catalog?

    Also, I picked up an old copy (1990) of Monster Rock 'N Roll Show...sounds like you had some fun puting that together! I have never heard "Monster Mash" sound that well-defined...nice job. :D
     
  2. Jason Brown

    Jason Brown Forum Resident

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    I'd be very interested in buying the original ZZ remasters too, FWIW.
     
  3. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    What if the band likes their remixes better?
     
  4. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    I say grab 'em by the hair on their chinny chin chins, give 'em a good shake and tell 'em that digital drum/digital artifact stuff on the remixes is c-r-a-p and we're not listening on boomboxes; sheesh, maybe Robin Hood Brians has some unadulterated tapes from the early ZZ years salted away...
     
  5. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    Although I'm not a ZZ Top fan, but if I were to buy their music, I'd prefer the original mixes.
     
  6. MikeD

    MikeD New Member

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    Uh oh. I hope you are not saying DCC is going to release the remixes!

    Chip :eek:
     
  7. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    Chip, I think you're a pretty good detective...
     
  8. MikeD

    MikeD New Member

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    And I'm pretty sure that Steve said it would be a greatest hits collection. Will DCC actually release La Grange with those big goofy drums? Oh my!

    Chip
     
  9. MikeD

    MikeD New Member

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    And another thing: Would those remixes be considered original 2 track masters? Food for thought. :rolleyes:

    Chip
     
  10. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    You guys crack me up. After all that, do you think I would let a band talk us into releasing an 80's remix of their work? Never!

    The original mixes or nuttin'...

    Just wanted you to read between the lines and see why it is taking longer...
     
  11. MikeD

    MikeD New Member

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    Whew! Thanks for the update. I'm patient, take your time!

    Chip :) (guy who overuses graemlins)
     
  12. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    Great googly moogly - a clean transfer of Tush (with maybe some genuine, honest bass and drums)??? Greatest hits is super fine ok with me as long as that digital remix stuff is verboten!
     
  13. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    Hey Indy Mike and Chip,
    You gotta hear this copy of Tush on ZZ Tops: The Best of ZZ Top 10 Legendary Texas Tales, no big goofy drums on this one. It doesn't say what year it was made though. American release on WB. ;)

    [ September 20, 2001: Message edited by: Dave ]
     
  14. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    There were two different versions of "Legs" on Eliminator. Supposedly, the only differences are on vinyl. The 1st one didn't have a lot of synth all over it, and they later reissued the LP with the new version with MUCH more synth in the mix. The DJ version 12" said "remix" and this is what you should hear on the stock copy of the Eliminator CD.

    Curious thing: When you play 2nd side of Eliminator (after "Bad Girl") on a turntable that isn't automatic, you can distinctly but faintly hear a Texas voice in the inner groove of the record...repeating...

    "Oh, Mercy....! (click)...Oh, Mercy....! (click)...Oh, Mercy....! (click)...etc..."

    Neat, huh?

    [ September 20, 2001: Message edited by: Sckott ]

    [ September 20, 2001: Message edited by: Sckott ]
     
  15. Holy Zoo

    Holy Zoo Gort (Retired) :-)

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    Sckott,

    Are you sure "Tush" was on Eliminator? I thought it was on Fandango.
     
  16. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Ahh!! I meant LEGS!! Damn. I shall edit the above post.
     
  17. Doug Hess Jr.

    Doug Hess Jr. Senior Member

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    Wasn't the version of LEGS with the synth turned up called the "Dancing Enhanced" mix or something stupid like that?
     
  18. btomarra

    btomarra Classic Rock Audiophile

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    Little Rock, AR
    Sckott,

    Have a question: Did they redo the vocals of Mexican Blackbird on Fandango for Six Pack? A coworker who had the orginal album noticed the differences to the Six Pack remix. I don't have the orginal mix of that album to A/B them, so I don't know.

    I have the Best of ZZ Top and clearly they redid the opening vocal of Jesus Just left Chicago for Six Pack.

    I, too, want the orginal mixes. I hated Six Pack. Edited songs (Francine, Back Door Love Affair) and an attempt to update the sound.

    Thanks,

    Brian
     
  19. whoompley

    whoompley Senior Member

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    Hey Brian,
    Yeah, and it's not just a different vocal, it's different lyrics on the last verse, as I recall...

    Wes Collins
     
  20. Holy Zoo

    Holy Zoo Gort (Retired) :-)

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    I forgot: What titles were rumored to be mastered by DCC sometime in the future? Or was that never said?
     
  21. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Bri,


    Good chance they went to the multi's to remix everything in Hollywood-type sound, and sometimes they seemed to use vocal tracks they didn't use origianlly. "Just Got Paid" for instance, it's a whole different mix, with guitar parts never there before. My guess is, that's a different take altogether. "Jesus Left Chicago" has another completely different vocal take to the London LPs, like you said. No, everything's messed with one way or another. Someone got wild ideas and USED them!

    If it was in the Bill Ham hands, the man had no care for the magic in the original sound or even arrangements. It's two different animals. Donno 'bout Mr. Ham.

    Food for thought...If anyone's curious, Listen to "Jesus" on both the London version, then the WB reissue from Tres Hombres (mirrors the 6 Pack) It's just a small 714 KB Mp3 sound example:
    http://people.ne.mediaone.net/seekr/zztest.mp3

    See? It's like....DUH! Whole different vocal.

    So without having a London LP of Fandango!, I would say, I bet they WERE different vocals. If I see a Fandango on London, I'll grab it for curiosity. I passed up a Tres Hombres on London, and I regret it. Ah, next time!
    [​IMG]

    [ September 21, 2001: Message edited by: Sckott ]
     
  22. btomarra

    btomarra Classic Rock Audiophile

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    Little Rock, AR
    Sckott,

    Thanks for the link. Yeh, big difference. I'm happy to wait for Steve H to get the original mixes. I hope we see a ZZ Top CD with his magic touch!

    Maybe he can do the Best of (I'd like added tracks, like from Tejas. That album was overlooked). Or how about a two-fer Tres Hombres/Fandango (if it fits on a CD. Don't know of the total running times of these albums together). Nice thought! :D
     
  23. pigmode

    pigmode Active Member

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    I can't wait. I hope Blue Jean Blues get on board.
     
  24. Unknown

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    Yeah, I still remember the first time I heard "La Grange" remixed, and thinking "What the hell was that?"

    Steve H, you are to be praised for sticking to your guns!
     
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