ABBA - Super Trouper Deluxe Edition coming May 2011

Rudolf, if the edit could be done seamlessly (ideally, by re-editing the missing verse back into the master tape before doing the transfer), then I'm fine with that. However, if this will cause dropouts, and if the single master is of a high enough quality (ie - if it was a 1:1 dub off of the mixdown master), then I have no issue with the single master being used.

 

Might just have to pick this remaster, based on the above reviews. I'll be interested to hear Kenny's opinion, too.

 

Although an analogue to analogue dub does suffer from generational loss. On Astley's remasters the edits sound a bit "abrupt" but not too bad.

Rudolf

 

Would this edit have been removed, and placed back at the end of the tape after Astley's transfer, or would they have left the master reel assembled?

I'm wondering if someone were able to do the edit again if they might be able to get a tighter fit to prevent that portion from sounding so abrupt. If not, I guess it comes down to how much of a generational loss there has been for the single master.

 

My copy is in the mail because my local record store didn't get any in.

I'll post a review once I get my hands on it.

 

Those waveforms sure do look very tasty. Can't wait to get this.

 

I assume one needs a facebook account in order to view them?

A copy have been ordered, should get it within a few days.

Ohh!! I want my copy now!

 

How does the deluxe edition compare to the mid-80s Atlantic CD?

 

Apparently so. That sucks.

 

I made the privacy settings for the picture set to "public"

Rudolf

 

Thanks for responding, but it still reports with the same page.

 

Here's the title track waveform taken from the Facebook page (and thanks moz for sharing):



Like I said earlier that looks VERY good in terms of dynamics. Hopefully the sound quality matches then this deluxe edition will be a real winner.

 

Hmmmm I see. In that case I will post them here as well

Super Trouper


The Winner Takes It All


On and On and On


Andante Andante


Me and I


Happy New Year


Our Last Summer


The Piper


Lay All Your Love On Me


The Way Old Friends Do


Elaine


On and On and On (Full Length Stereo Version)


Put On Your White Sombrero


Andante Andante (Spanish Version)


Felicidad (Spanish version of Happy New Year)


Rudolf

 

Thank you. Those are terrific.

 

Thanks!
Those waveforms looks nice

 

This surely looks great, I'm hoping to get my copy today. It looks more dynamic than VV Deluxe to my eyes. I wonder if it's Universal or Erik Broheden at Masters of Audio who have decided this!

Does anyone know how much, or if, they have reduced the dynamics?

 

Someone had mentioned that parts of the long version of "On and On and On" sounded a bit muffled, as if the extra verse had possibly been dropped in from the mono version.

I'm still waiting on my copy to be delivered from the UK, so can anyone who actually has a copy comment on this?

 

Here are the Dynamic Range values of the original CD release.
I'll post values of the Deluxe Edition when I get it.

 

Yep,

my Canadian Polydor CD of Super Trouper has the same DR+ data as the original Polar:

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Analyzed: ABBA / Super Trouper
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR14 -0.46 dB -17.28 dB 4:11 01-Super Trouper
DR14 -1.57 dB -19.34 dB 4:55 02-The Winner Takes It All
DR14 -0.10 dB -17.37 dB 3:40 03-On And On And On
DR13 -2.15 dB -18.74 dB 4:39 04-Andante, Andante
DR14 -0.63 dB -17.07 dB 4:55 05-Me And I
DR13 -1.70 dB -18.80 dB 4:23 06-Happy New Year
DR12 -1.67 dB -16.69 dB 4:19 07-Our Last Summer
DR12 -2.64 dB -16.77 dB 3:26 08-The Piper
DR13 -1.28 dB -17.06 dB 4:35 09-Lay All Your Love On Me
DR11 -2.66 dB -18.49 dB 2:57 10-The Way Old Friends Do
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Number of tracks: 10
Maximum peak difference (-0.10 dB - -2.66 dB): 2.56 dB

Official DR value (Song Mode): DR13
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For reference, here's the waveform for the track "Super Trouper" from the Atlantic CD (16023-2):



Harry

 

Good comparison - the new one still looks pretty good although there is some very slight compression.

 

My Deluxe Edition of SUPER TROUPER shipped from the UK on Saturday, so I would expect it'll take a while longer to get here. I ordered it more for the DVD than the CD since I have the Atlantic disc referenced above.

Harry

 

My copy still hasn't arrived but it's highly unlikely because the tonality would be completely different. The mono version is quite heavily compressed compared with the stereo version that was issued.

 

I'm still doing a complete analysis, but the extended version does sound slightly harsher and has more tape hiss than the regular version found on the Deluxe edition.

Rudolf

 

I listened quickly yesterday. My first impression is that they have done it really good this time. It sounds clearer and quiter. It fells like the music fills the room more, like there is "more" music. I always thought that the 1983 Polydor (like most other early eighties Abba-cd:s) sounds a bit digital, especially in the high frequencis. I don't know if the lp sounds like that or if it's the first generation of AD-converters that wasn't good. Now it sounds more smooth.
I also think that the bass is richer. I haven't noticed less dynamics, even though I must listen more before I'm sure.