Beatles 1964 footage colorized, "And I Love Her", "Tell Me Why". I don't hate it...

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Jul 8, 2013.

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  1. Rackmacko

    Rackmacko Active Member

    The IKEA Beatles.
     
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  2. JohnT

    JohnT Senior Member

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    I'd like to see the whole movie like that - then decide.

    I'm happy if I never do though as the black and white is that cool.
     
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  3. CaptainOzone

    CaptainOzone On Air Cowbell

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    I don't hate it either. Really, most people wouldn't know it was fake anyway.
     
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  4. All Rights

    All Rights Senior Member

    It looks Duophonic.
     
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  5. MikeM

    MikeM Senior Member

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    Thanks...I thought I remembered it having something to do with frame rates.

    Apart from the slower speed, are the film mixes unique, as you seem to imply? Or are they simply the standard mono mixes, which I believe are single-tracked in several places where the stereo ones are not (e.g., the "If I Fell" intro).
     
  6. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host Thread Starter

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    Those are remixes. Correct remixes, but remixes.
     
  7. goodiesguy

    goodiesguy Confide In Me

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    Looks ok, but a bit off. I've never seen a perfect colorization, but Bewitched got it pretty damn close.

    I wish someone would colorize the Ed Sullivan appearances, just to see them differently and what they might of been like in color.
     
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  8. MAYBEIMAMAZED

    MAYBEIMAMAZED Don't think Twice it's alright

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    Could you be more clear with your thoughts :laugh:
     
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  9. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    something new to watch of the Beatles...It was cool, but I like the original...I'd watch a complete colorization if it was available...I did not feel threatened by this.:laugh:
     
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  10. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    well we got to see stills of their appearances in color on the Ed Sullivan Show on the Beatles Bubble Gum Cards! they looked spectacular then! THE BEATLES CARDS IN COLOR! loved the box !
     
  11. ManFromCouv

    ManFromCouv Employee #3541

    It's fine....my inner nostalgian isn't effected at all. Everyone under spotlights has the skin tone of a mannequin, even the Fabs.
     
  12. Ben Sinise

    Ben Sinise Forum Reticent

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    Why sugar coat it?
    Please tell us what you really think.
     
  13. botley

    botley Forum Resident

    Just to be pedantic, the "standard" mono mixes do vary from the mono film versions AND the stereo versions. The film producers used slightly different mixes from what George Martin had produced for Parlophone records, and United Artists put those alternate film mixes on their version of the soundtrack — "And I Love Her" appears with a single-tracked vocal there, because that's all UA had the rights to release (and Capitol also used it for their 45 single and the Something New LP; presumably they didn't bother asking for the Parlophone mix, they just copied UA's tape), but both mono and stereo UK album mixes have the double-tracking. As our host implied, neither is more "correct" but they are unique.
     
  14. erniebert

    erniebert Shoe-string audiophile

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    What colour's your puke? :D
     
  15. RTurner

    RTurner Senior Member

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    Oddly enough, it's black and white. :cool:
     
  16. jeffcdo

    jeffcdo Senior Member

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    I first saw this posted by Stevie Riks on Facebook, I thought for sure these were done badly, on purpose, as a joke. I laughed out loud when I saw the repeated shots of the modern control room equipment.
     
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  17. overdrivethree

    overdrivethree Forum Resident

    not sure if i like it. it's very..."clean."
     
  18. Royce

    Royce Senior Member

    Me Too! :thumbsup:
    I don't see what would be the harm in having a well done colorized version of it available. There were color pictures taken on the sets, so it would be easy to get a lot of the colors right.
    if i fell.jpg prams.jpg wilfbeats.jpg
     
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  19. erniebert

    erniebert Shoe-string audiophile

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  20. nikh33

    nikh33 Senior Member

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    Me neither. A WELL DONE colorized version would be great. THIS is SO BAD it looks like it was done in 1981 by an incompetent chimpanzee.
     
  21. paulisdead

    paulisdead fast and bulbous



    I liked the "artificial" look of it but did they need to cut in the 24 track tape machine? They got the black and white monitors right, why add technology from the 1970's and 80's? The LCD controller (on a top of a different and modern recording console) was a bit much as well.
     
  22. varispeed

    varispeed what if?

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    Yes, a 2" 24-track sitting smack dab in the middle of 1964. Long Live Magic Alex!!!!!!
     
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  23. JFS3

    JFS3 Senior Member

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    Maybe they could convert Help! to B&W and tint it green.
     
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  24. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    yes! finally the director will have his way! but, it must be on BR! :laugh:
     
  25. paulisdead

    paulisdead fast and bulbous


    Didn't Alex want to build a 72 track machine? Alexis pulled a fast one over John. It's a real shame as his REAL friends were trying to tell him that Magic Alex was a massive con artist.

    From Wikipedia:

    Mardas often said that the Abbey Road studio was "no good", much to producer George Martin's annoyance: "The trouble was that Alex was always coming to the studios to see what we were doing and to learn from it, while at the same time saying ‘These people are so out of date.’ But I found it very difficult to chuck him out, because the boys liked him so much. Since it was very obvious that I didn’t, a minor schism developed". Mardas boasted that he could build a much better studio, with a 72-track tapemachine, instead of the 4-track at Abbey Road—which was being updated at the time to an 8-track—so he was given the job of designing the new Apple Studio in the basement of Apple headquarters in Savile Row. One of Mardas' more outrageous plans was to replace the acoustic baffles around Starr's drums with an invisible sonic force field. Starr remembered that Mardas bought some "huge" computers from British Aerospace, which were stored in his barn, but "they never left the barn", and were later sold as scrap metal.
    Mardas gave the Beatles regular reports of his progress, but when they required their new studio in January 1969, during the Get Back project that became Let It Be, they discovered an unusable studio: no 72-track tape deck (Mardas had reduced it to 16 tracks), no soundproofing, no talkback (intercom) system, and not even a patch bay to run the wiring between the control room and the 16 speakers that Mardas had fixed haphazardly to the walls. The only new piece of sound equipment present was a crude mixing console which Mardas had built, which looked (in the words of Martin's assistant, Dave Harries) like "bits of wood and an old oscilloscope". The console was scrapped after just one session. Harrison said it was "chaos", and that they had to "rip it all out and start again," calling it "the biggest disaster of all time." Harrison's suspicions of Mardas' competence had been raised when he saw him wandering around in a white coat with a clipboard, and considered the possibility that Mardas had "just read the latest version of Science Weekly, and used its ideas". Mardas later stated that he had never been in the basement of Savile Row, as the studio equipment he was building was being tested in Apple Electronics, at Boston Place, Marylebone.
     
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