Beatles Biography by Mark Lewisohn (6th edition)- plus Lewisohn news. *

WTF?

Funny? Isn't that for the beholder to judge?

 

It's true.

You're right and I judged it to be so.

 

Weeks ago, I remember hearing it discussed on one of Mark's many recent podcast interviews. Can't recall which one. Maybe I'm wrong to make a definitive statement, because release is still down the road a ways. At the very least, though, I remember Mark saying that he fully expects there to be enough material for another extended edition. If reference citing is required, sorry, I can't recall. You're certainly free to take my previous comment with a grain of salt.

 

"It's true"...what is? That it happened or that Lewisohn said it happened?

"You're right and I judged it to be so."

 

Post 2720 just above?

 

All I can say is Lewisohn wrote it happened. I don't have the book in front of me but I'll bet the info was from an interview.

 

The story was in Paul's Many Years From Now.

 

It's also here: Absolute Elsewhere: The Spirit of John Lennon | Lennon Lore & Legacy: Oh! Calcutta!

 

So it is. Fair enough.

 

Perhaps he'll indeed call the second one "Turn On", but when he gets to Volume 3, he might choose the title, "Drop In".

This would be a nod to remarks John Lennon made from bed, during his peace bed-in, Toronto, 1969. John specifically addresses the "Tune In, Turn On, and Drop Out" mantra and rejects it and then concludes:

"Don't believe that jazz about there's nothing you can do, 'turn on and drop out, man' — because you've got to turn on and drop in, or they're going to drop all over you." -- John Lennon

So it would perhaps be a bit overly sardonic--and counter to the Beatles message--for Lewisohn to use "Drop Out" for a title. As volume 3 will encompass the introspective India period, "Drop In" seems more appropriate to me. Admittedly, that is a pretty esoteric basis for a title, so maybe it's not the likely one, but he could illuminate its meaning in the subtitle--something like "Tune IN. The Beatles look inward, seek personal truth and reconcile their individual places in the world."

 

I don't see why the Volume 2 title has to relate to Tune In. "Tune In" doesn't just refer to "tune in, turn on, yada yada." The phrase also stands alone: "Tune in next week when our heroes vanquish the planet!" Or "tune in now to hear a new song that's taking England by storm." In this case, the title for volume 1 accurately reflects how people started tuning in to The Beatles.

Part 2 is about how they went from The Beatles to THE BEATLES. "Turn on" isn't strong enough to reflect the global domination theme. I vote for the following title: Beatlemania

 

Abbey Road - Leaner, Meaner and MUCH Better!

This thread: - 'Abbey Road Leaner Meaner and Beefier'...

 

"That is, you can't, you know, tune in but it's all right..."

 

Part 2: Nothing is Real
Part 3: Nothing to get Hung About...

 

It's a biography of the group and it's members, it may not be as singularly focused as a biography on any single one of them as a biography dedicated to any of them as individuals might be, but clearly given how much of the book is in fact biographical information about their lives, I mean he even goes into the background of their families before they were born. A biography is basically a personal history, this is a history of the Beatles which is made up of it's members and what shaped them, shaped the group and everything they did.

 

Thx.

 

I am happy with Wikipedia's definition:

"A biography is a detailed description of a person's life."

 

Vol 2 : 2021(2).
Vol 3: sometime after.
Is that still the date fixture ?

 

That's not the distinction. It's still the biography of four individual people.

Lewisohn is writing the story of one pop group. Of course that will include biographical details as any work of history would but it's not a biography.

 

See post #2565

 

Shrug,
Lewisohn's own website says...

To me, it's following a singular entity, swap person for entity and ta da!

Maybe you'll say they're all wrong, but plenty of bands have biographies written about em.

 

To you but not to me.

A history of a political party - is that a biography, for example?

 

The pedantry about the exact definition of biography makes me long for the days when discussion focused on how likely each of us was to die before the next volume.
Dictionary.com:
noun, plural biographies.
1.
a written account of another person's life:
the biography of Byron by Marchand.
2.
an account in biographical form of an organization, society, theater,animal, etc.
3.
such writings collectively.
4.
the writing of biography as an occupation or field of endeavor.

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Merriam-Webster
Definition of biography
plural biographies
1: a usually written history of a person's life

• a new biography of Abraham Lincoln

2: biographical writings as a whole

• the genre of biography

3: an account of the life of something (such as an animal, a coin, or a building)

• thebiography of the commonwealth

 

Not just me, though. Will you be messaging Mr Lewisohn asking him to correct his website?

Well. I don't know what to say. The word biography is often used in ways you might not like. Bands are a funny area - a few people squashed into a shared destiny.

I think you're being too limited with the meaning, though.

You used the word history for a reason

If that party was defined by the human element, the characters, the core people in it - sure it's possible. A biography of the founding fathers. Rather than, your example suggesting, the history of the formation of US government.

 

Don't see no post count?