Blu-Ray/SACD player recommendation needed

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Joel Shapiro, Sep 18, 2017.

  1. Joel Shapiro

    Joel Shapiro Active Member Thread Starter

    I'm looking to buy a blu-ray player to play SACD's in a dedicated 2-channel stereo system. My budget is around $500. I found the Yamaha Aventage BD-A1060. Any other suggestions? Thank you.
     
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  2. Tom Littlefield

    Tom Littlefield Forum Resident

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    The OPPO 203 is great, plays 4K discs as well...
     
  3. Steve G

    Steve G Forum Resident

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    The OPPO 203 is like $550 new or something like that. Right around your budget and it is pretty sweet sounding.
     
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  4. Litejazz53

    Litejazz53 Enjoying Sparkling Crystal Clear Digital

    Oppo 105D, fantastic music streamer, SACD, HDCD decoding for high quality discs like Reference Recordings, Darby Dan picture enhancement for Blu-ray, it's just a great do everything RIGHT player. :righton:
     
  5. Tartifless

    Tartifless Forum Resident

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    Can you send a link to a 500 $ oppo 105D ?
     
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  6. Tartifless

    Tartifless Forum Resident

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    Yamaha BD-S681
    Pioneer bdp x300
    Sony also has some in your budget.
     
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  7. Litejazz53

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  8. Brother_Rael

    Brother_Rael Forum Resident

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    Think this would get my nod as well as the other usual suspects...
     
  9. Joel Shapiro

    Joel Shapiro Active Member Thread Starter

    Thanks for that suggestion. The Yamaha BD-S681 is a budget version of the Aventage without XLR outputs, which I couldn't use anyway.
     
  10. Litejazz53

    Litejazz53 Enjoying Sparkling Crystal Clear Digital

    The thing I'm just not real sure about is the player really giving you DSD (SACD) or is it downgrading to PCM as many of the tiny budget players do. I tried to look at the specs, and it's like reading Hebrew, I could not tell if it's DSD using HDMI or even the HDMI is downgraded to PCM, just don't know, but I would make sure I knew, before I bought that BD-S681, especially if the purpose is to enjoy SACD's. I would make real sure your getting DSD all the way until it turns analog, NO PCM conversions along the way, nope would not want that.
     
  11. tootull

    tootull John Norman

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    I'm happy with the Yamaha BD-S681.
    SACD & HDCD Yamaha BD-S681 and AVENTAGE BD-A1060 Blu-ray Player Preview
    To improve CD music playback, a CD Mode has been added on both models that disables HDMI video output and reduce disc revolution by 30 percent to reduce unwanted disc vibrations and improve data reading sensitivity which Yamaha claims leads to better audio fidelity.

    Also use a Sony X800 for DVD-A & SACD through HDMI.
     
  12. tootull

    tootull John Norman

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    Does this help?
    Yamaha BD-S681 reads out as DSD on my Yamaha amp through HDMI, just like the Sony X800.

    Choose DSD & DSD signals are output from the HDMI jack when an SA-CD or a DSD file is played back.
    (The analog output is muted.)

    Choose PCM & PCM (HDMI & A.out) PCM signals are output from the HDMI jack and AUDIO OUT jacks. (Audio signals output from the AUDIO OUT jacks are down mixed to 2-channel sounds.)
     
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  13. Steve G

    Steve G Forum Resident

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    the Oppo does pure DSD. You can't send DSD through HDMI though, it's a different spec. You have to use the analog outs.
     
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  14. Joel Shapiro

    Joel Shapiro Active Member Thread Starter

    Glad you like your BD-S681. Do you know if it uses DSD decoding?
     
  15. ls35a

    ls35a Forum Resident

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    It's 2017. Can't believe people are still even talking about DSD. That ship has sailed.
     
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  16. TarnishedEars

    TarnishedEars Forum Resident

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    Um, that is incorrect. You certainly can stream DSD through HDMI from an Oppo. It's getting DSD from Toslink or Coax (or even downsampled PCM from DSD) which you cannot do without the addition of some specialized hardware.

    But you are correct that, for most people, this means using the analog outputs.
     
  17. jbmcb

    jbmcb Forum Resident

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    To clarify a bit further, it will work if your receiver/preamp supports it. A lot of receivers are vague on support for decoding DSD, and, I think, most low to mid-range receivers will simply transcode it to PCM, they don't have native DSD-analog converters. If they do they will typically loudly advertise this fact.
     
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  18. Joel Shapiro

    Joel Shapiro Active Member Thread Starter

    So neither Yamaha BR player will decode DSD except through HDMI? If so, they're out.
     
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  19. Tartifless

    Tartifless Forum Resident

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    Dsd is either through hdmi or converted to analog directly for rca out.
    DSD cannot be output through coax or spdif.

    So i don't know what the oppo offers that the yamaha does not !
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  20. Steve G

    Steve G Forum Resident

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    How do you tend to purchase your surround classical titles?
     
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  21. Sony's UBP-X800 UHD player handles pretty much every format, including SACD.

    Sony UBP-X800

    The pricier UBP-X1000ES does the same but is built more for audiophiles.
     
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  22. Brother_Rael

    Brother_Rael Forum Resident

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    It's not really a downgrade. Minor point, but relevant I think.

    I used DSD via HDMI on my old setup before I moved, with the 752BD going into an Onkyo TX-NR818 which handled it. Speakers were Tannoy DC4 which are a nicely revealing little box and were positioned about six feet away. Swapped back and forth between the two formats and didn't find much to write home about. Greater priorities for your sound like elsewhere and these days, with my current actives, I use PCM in any case. I must admit don't feel I'm losing out.

    Greater differences can be had by adjusting the position of your speakers, IMO. For the OP, don't sweat the small stuff on formats. Get the right mastering instead, reaps much greater rewards I think, and I'm a big SACD proponent.
     
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  23. Brother_Rael

    Brother_Rael Forum Resident

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    You'll still get the SACD layer though. Just via a different route. And there really isn't a massive difference worth a damn anyway. IMO again...

    And get the Onkyo HF Player app. The paid version gives you pure DSD. See how you get on with that, for less than a tenner, before you splash the cash on a player. Just a thought...
     
  24. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Forum Resident

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    What does the rest of your two channel system consist of? Do you have a large collection of SACDs? Do you mind buying used?
     
  25. High Fidelity

    High Fidelity Well-Known Member

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    What is the difference between the X800 & the X1000ES apart from the front display, spec. appears to be the same
     

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