Captain Beefheart Safe As Milk from the MONO master on Sundazed!!

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  1. Pants Party

    Pants Party MOSTLY PEACEFUL

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    I'm assuming this is only vinyl? I'd love a CD of the mono. Or SACD!!

    Without a doubt, this is one of the greatest debut albums ever. And one of the greatest albums of all time that few really know about.
     
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  2. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    I do wonder what the sales were like on this album over all? Do you think it has hit 250,000 to 350,00 copies over the decades?
     
  3. ranasakawa

    ranasakawa Forum Resident

    Safe As Milk (mono) was my introduction to Beefheart, I then got Strictly Personal & I was hooked.
    I also got Trout Mask Replica and found it an album that doesn't work for me.
    I would love to see the 1st 2 Beefheart albums re-mixed as they sound awful, the equipment used to mix them must have been very primitive indeed.
     
  4. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    If they issue Strictly Personal
    before it was ruined by all the horrible phasing
    and crap , it will be wonderful !

    i read not long ago that the original
    master was located in Culver City
    or such
     
  5. GreatKingRat

    GreatKingRat Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't it basically released as the Mirror Man sessions?
     
  6. Buckyball

    Buckyball Forum Resident

    Sundazed released It Comes to You in a Plain Brown Wrapper in 2008. Have there been more tapes discovered since then?
     
  7. Izozeles

    Izozeles Pushing my limits

    I love when Sundazed comes to fill an, otherwise too expensive, blank in my collection. I hope they do the same with Trout. I have a recent reissue, but it's not what I'd like to have. Any recommendations about a pressing of this masterpiece?
     
  8. GreatKingRat

    GreatKingRat Well-Known Member

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    It Comes to You in a Plain Brown Wrapper is just the already released Mirror Man sessions re-sequenced and released on vinyl. There isn't a straight non-phased version of the finished album, because the finished album was the original recordings, that have since been released as the Mirror Man Sessions, severely edited down and re-mixed.

    If Sundazed don't release these newly found mono mastersof Safe As Milk on CD, they frankly need shooting. These mixes deserve to be heard, and not just by vinyl junkies.
     
  9. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    The material on I May Be Hungry... ,
    the bonus tracks on SAM , & The Mirror Man Sessions , are
    all alternate takes of most of the Strictly Personal songs ,
    it was said to have been broadcast in Canada in 1968
    without all the fizzy , fuzzy , phasey rubbish...

    that was added when when the band was in the UK & Europe



    :realmad::realmad::realmad:
     
  10. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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  11. ranasakawa

    ranasakawa Forum Resident

    I would love to hear those out takes from 1968 but want them on CD. Is there a CD of the sessions from 1967-1968 ?
     
  12. Buckyball

    Buckyball Forum Resident

  13. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    Yes , between those two , you
    have the lot , I May Be Hungry is missing Corn Ring Finger
     
  14. davidshirt

    davidshirt =^,,^=

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    Well. Now we wait until November.
     
  15. Vivaldinization

    Vivaldinization Active Member

    Echo on the requirement that this come out on CD. Releasing it on vinyl would solve absolutely no problem whatsoever.

    Also:


    Wrapper also doesn't sound very good, I've heard. From what I recall, it's all taken from the common digital sources and may have more noise reduction than before.

    Also: hasn't the standard tale re. "Strictly Personal" been contested (i.e. that Don wasn't aware of the manipulation before it was released)?
     
  16. Heavy Music

    Heavy Music Forum Resident

    Don Van Vliet was reported to be, in his earlier years, a door-to-door vacuum cleaner salesman.
     
  17. Heavy Music

    Heavy Music Forum Resident

    Don Van Vliet was reported to be, in his earlier years, a door-to-door vacuum cleaner salesman.
     
  18. John D.

    John D. Senior Member

    Thanks, I've seen pictures in books of him w/ vacuum cleaners in hand, but never knew that he once sold them. :cheers:
     
  19. MisterBit

    MisterBit New Member

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    That's why he told a prospective customer, one Aldous Huxley no less,
    "Sir, I can guarantee you, this machine sucks"

    He also worked for Kinney Shoes - now, that's a small world isn't it?
    Little did he know Kinney would go where they did.

    He also sold bread & ended up being produced by a Bread man
    ...and so forth

    Not logging on often, I read your thread with interest...
    I have collected Beefheart since the 60's

    IMHO: What you need, vinyl album-wise, is

    1) The Legendary A&M Sessions
    (Red cover issue. OK, not an album, it's a 12", but anyway...)

    2) SAM - First issue mono inc stuffings
    3) SAM - First issue stereo inc ditto
    4) SAM - Plastic Factory, German pressing

    5) SP - Blue Thumb first press
    6) It Comes To You In A Plain Brown Wrapper

    7) TMR - First issue US auto-coupled inc lyric sheet
    7b) TMR - First issue UK. (The French 'Pachuco' single off TMR is also a little cleaner/different to my ears)

    8) LMDO,B - First issue US with the PRO-ad liner

    9) TSK - First issue US or UK
    9b) Not vinyl but critical - Spotlight Kid Out-takes, rev3

    10) CS - Either US or UK first, with emboss wallet
    (If US with pack, even better)

    11) UG - UK issue

    12) BJ&M - UK issue

    13) SB(BCP) - First issue US
    13b) NOT VINYL but critical - ZFTs Bat Chain Puller

    14) DATRS - US First issue

    15) ICFC -US or UK First

    16) Other - Bongo Fury (post BJ&M/pre SB(BCP))
    17) Other - Hot Rats
    17) Other - 'V' 2 live tracks (diff edits to the London's)
    18) Other - Best Batch Yet (on God's Golfball)
    19) Grow Fins I, II & III

    There is stuff on CD of course, like concerts - the full London ( not the 2-parters), The Bannister concerts, IGDWIWD, NY HotDog, Amsterdam 80, LAMFP, etc., and so on.
    I skated over a lot of overlaps and just stuck above to the vinyl theme, with 2 cds that interpolate. Once you've listened to those I think you can then get picky about some remasters being better or not. ie, I quite like the Rev Ola CD for SAM if you don't have first issue, etc. Then, of course there's Mallard and the 'post' Magic Band - "Crow's Milk" wonderful!!
     
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  20. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    No kidding - I met Don Van Vliet once, and the first thing he said to me was "Hi! I like your shoes. I had some like that once."
     
  21. Yes, at least he says so - about having worked in such a place, perhaps as late as in the late 70s, maybe even as a MANAGER I'm not sure - in one of his Letterman interviews (youtubed)!
     
  22. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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  23. MisterBit

    MisterBit New Member

    Location:
    Woodham, Essex, UK
    Don was def a shoe man - When he did Frank Freeman's in UK he sent a newly-purchased pair of boots back to the States.

    Holding things together, early day, he was also driving the Helms bread truck out to Cucamonga. (When Zap was in Ontario & scheming with Buff). Doubtless Don also got the taste for Abba Zabas from the truck's stock - amazing days, when they rang a bell & folks in the out-flung desert streets would come to buy bread, buns & groceries.

    I always wondered if they were doing a 'reunion of old times' thing on the Bongo Fury sleeve. The flipped left-to-right pic was apparently taken in 'Foster's Freeze' in Lancaster - where Don is wearing his "The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes" as per the GTOs.
    He shows off his footwear at 0:31 here too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRlmTzDyw7s
    The classic banned promo that's now in MOMA
     
  24. zongo

    zongo Forum Resident

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    Really nice post, with the list of LPs needed and the story. Thanks!
     
  25. Laservampire

    Laservampire Down with this sort of thing Thread Starter

    Any comments of the SQ on the Sundazed 45s?

    I ordered mine this morning so it'll be an anxious few weeks wait.
     
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