Classical Corner Classical Music Corner (thread #51)

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  1. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    So $20 for 4 hours of music? That works out quite a lot better than the $65 I paid a few days ago for 4 minutes (Carlo Albani singing "Cielo e Mar" from Ponchielli's La Giaconda, Edison blue amberol cylinder). :help:
     
  2. drh

    drh Talking Machine

  3. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Forum Resident

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    I was just browsing this in the bookstore and almost bought it — beautifully designed — gorgeous — and very tempting.

    It was just heartily recommended in the New York Times:

    "Mr. Gardiner — who has proved himself a superb Bach conductor by, among other things, recording all the Bach sacred cantatas (recordings now available as a complete set of 56 CDs from Mr. Gardiner’s own label, Soli Deo Gloria) — here proves himself a substantial scholar as well. Not a straight biography, but a discussion of issues touching on Bach’s life, career and world, the book is dense with detail and informed conjecture but written in a lively manner. A major achievement."​
     
  4. John S

    John S Forum Resident

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  5. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing the following CD, which arrived many moons ago from across the pond for a first listen ...

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  6. irwin69

    irwin69 Well-Known Member

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    It says 'DSD Remastered by Emil Berliner Studios, 3/2012'. Does this help?
     
  7. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    Greatly. This the same as the SHM-SACD and unique to these releases. The Esoteric SACD is different. Thanks!
     
  8. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    So, this month's Classica in France rates the best Schubert Impromptus recordings:

    1. Brendel, 88, Philips/Decca (his '72 recording suffers in the CD transfer from excessive reverberation)
    2. Cassard, 07, Accord
    3. Pires, 96, DG
    4. Zimerman, 90, DG
    5. Uchida, 96, Philips
    6. Lupu, 82, Decca
    7. Dalberto, 91
    8. Arrau, 91, Philips

    and the "historics" mentioned are: E. Fischer-38, A. Schnabel-50 (too late in his career), Kempff-65 (classique but uniform), Curzon-41/52, Ciccolini-72 (destroyed by the mediocre recording quality that EMI gave to its pianists in the 70s as mentioned in their comment).
     
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  9. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    And Diapason rates Liszt's Faust Symphony recordings:

    1. Dorati, RCO, Philips 82
    2. Bernstein, BSO, Euroarts DVD, 76
    3. Sinopoli, SD, DG, 95
    4. Noseda, Chandos, 05 (without choir).
     
  10. irwin69

    irwin69 Well-Known Member

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    I assume therefore I would be wise to try some SHM-SACDs then? I am tempted by the Britten/Rostropovich Arpeggione Sonata.
     
  11. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    This is deleted I think. Also i think it comes from a 2004 japanese 2004 sacd and not a fresh transfer. This does not mean it is not wonderful ( a friend has it and is very enthusiastic about it), but it can be that the blu ray audio to be issued shortly perhaps uses the same 2004 transfer.
     
  12. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    More from the french reviews front:

    the all recent Bartok 2/Prokofiev 3 Sony CD with Lang/Rattle gets only 2 stars (average) and 3 (good) for audio quality: "more Lisztian approach by Lang than modernistic, BPO simply follows in Pokofiev while they are better in Bartok; a lost occasion for such talents gathered together..."
     
  13. 5-String

    5-String Forum Resident

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    Liszt's Faust Symphony is an old favorite of mine so let me just say that this is a terrible list :laughup:
    Noseda? Lol, give me a break! His version doesn't even use a chorus or a tenor for christ's sake.
    Anyway, here's my favorite recordings (no ranking order).

    1. Beecham, Royal PO, 1958
    2. Bernstein, NYP, 1964 (although his live with BSO is not bad either I prefer this)
    3. Ferencsik, Hungarian State Orchestra, 1979
    4. Masur, Leipzig Gewandhaus, (cannot find the date right now)
    5. Solti, CSO, 1986
     
  14. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    Their reaction in one word to your preferred versions are as follows:

    1. Too hedonist
    2. Too contrast oriented; BSO digs deeper in the substance.
    3. Lack of imagination - excessively balanced
    4. Very fast. No vision.
    5. Pure beauty.

    Noseda gets in as best version of the choir less version.

    My favorite is Chailly/RCO.
     
  15. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    So, these are the best "Jeunehomme" (Mozart's PC KV 271) acc to Classica of Nov 13:

    1. Brendel/Marriner/ASMF, 77/78, Philips
    2. Staier/Concerto Koeln, 95, Teldec
    3. Ashkenazy/Kertesz/LSO, 66, Decca
    4. Schiff/Vegh, 88, Decca
    5. Perahia/ECO, Sony
    6. Pires, 72, Erato
    7. Immerseel, 90/91, Channel
    8. Barenboim, EMI, 69.
     
  16. George P

    George P Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Thanks again for sharing from this series!

    They have my #1 in their top 3 (Pires, DG.) Lupu I like a lot as well. Haven't heard Cassard, will keep an eye out for that one. Did Arrau record D 899 in 1991? I have Arrau's 1991 D. 935 and D. 946, but no D. 899.
     
  17. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    They have the photo of this box:

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  18. George P

    George P Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Ok, thanks! The D 899 in that set is actually from 1978.
     
  19. 5-String

    5-String Forum Resident

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    French critics! What did you expect? Of course they put down Beecham! :D
    All joking aside, Diapason is a good magazine.

    Thanks for sharing this!:thumbsup:
     
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  20. George P

    George P Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Ooohhh!! I gotta hear that one!
     
  21. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    Alone?
     
  22. 5-String

    5-String Forum Resident

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    I see Staier in this list. I got his Diabelli Variations recently.

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    I have listened to it once so far and I don't know what to think of it yet. In one word, it sounds strange.
     
  23. 5-String

    5-String Forum Resident

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    Lol.

    George, Beecham's version is considered top notch, despite what Diapason says. Sound quality is good but it is in mono.
     
  24. George P

    George P Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    That's private. :shh:
     
  25. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    I just noticed that Dorati's Faust Symphony rec with the Concertgebouw O. made in 82, is cheaply available in a recent 5-cd box titled Ultimate Liszt, that includes also the Pcs with Arrau, Sonata with Curzon, Symphonic poems with Solti, Hungarian Rapsodies with Maur:

    http://www.deccaclassics.com/en/cat/4780235
     
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