Classical music for Dummies....

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Vinyl-Addict, Jul 15, 2003.

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  1. Vinyl-Addict

    Vinyl-Addict Groovetracer Manufacturer Thread Starter

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    OK, so I'm an uneducated newbie to Classical music, I admit it. I really have just shown major interest in it during this past year. The problem is knowing what to buy since there is such a vast library of material to choose from.
    I currently own about 40 Classical LP's(all but 5 are re-issues). That's the format of choice for me so I don't consider any of the digital formats. I need help in choosing albums that suit my taste which seems to lean toward large Orchestral pieces. I really enjoy the dynamic swings of these pieces but I only own a few to date.
    Could someone recommend titles that are no brainers to a newbie like myself. Your help would be much appreciated, my turntable awaits. :)
     
  2. Steve Hoffman

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    Go to your used record store and buy everything by the composers that you have heard of, and try some you haven't.

    Since you will only be paying $2.50 for each album you can't go wrong. Then, when you hear a guy you like, buy more of his work.

    Listen to classical radio and when you hear something you like, write it down and the name of the composer.

    Go into your local CD store and in the classical section, find all of the composers who have "GREATEST HITS" discs. Then, back to the used LP store and find stuff by those guys. Try them. If you like, buy more.

    Classical LP's (other than RCA Living Stereo's and London Blue Back's) are cheap as hell.

    When in doubt as to one conductor over another (and this is just my opinion of course), go with Bernstein, Ormandy, etc. People you have heard of. Then, if you like a certain piece of music enough to hear another interpretation of it, try the same thing with another conductor.

    It's fun, and it's cheap!
     
  3. Vinyl-Addict

    Vinyl-Addict Groovetracer Manufacturer Thread Starter

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    Wow, thanks Steve for all the helpful advice.:)

    There is one issue I have with used classical LP's and that is background noise. When there are quiet passages, the noise can become distracting to say the least, that's why I've been buying these re-issues.
     
  4. Dave D

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    I always direct people to Holst's The Planets. It's nice and heavy to start (Mars) so it grabs your attention quickly....the whole thing is amazing....I think it's parts of Venus that make me cry......grab it if you can!
     
  5. tim_neely

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    And unlike other radio formats, classical radio almost always tells you, both before AND after a piece, what you just heard or are about to hear, who the composer is, and who the performer is.
     
  6. Steve Hoffman

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    I yelled at you? When? :confused:
     
  7. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

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    :laugh: :laugh:
    That "political" thread! Ebay?Remember?
    :D
     
  8. Steve Hoffman

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    Oh, that's not yelling. That was just a nudge. I leave the yelling to the Gorts. :)
     
  9. Vinyl-Addict

    Vinyl-Addict Groovetracer Manufacturer Thread Starter

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    Steve said,
    Luckily we have a decent classical station in SF Bay area so I listen daily, 102.1 on the dial. The money I spent on the Magnum Dynalab tuner a few years ago has definitely been worth it. :)

    Daved64 said,
    Thanks Dave, I'll look for it. :)
     
  10. Peter D

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    I second everything Steve said, and would add that I found my local library a really valuable resource when I was first getting into classical music -- they had a lot of classical recordings. Also, here are a few of the big orchestral works that grabbed me when I was first starting out:

    Bartok: Concerto For Orchestra, Music For Strings Percussion & Celesta
    Beethoven: symphonies (especially 1,3,4,5,6,7,9)
    Copland: Rodeo, Billy the Kid, Appalachian Spring
    Dvorak: Cello Concerto, Symphony 9, Slavonic Dances
    Grieg: Piano Concerto, Peer Gynt Suites
    Holst: Planets
    Mussorgsky: Pictures At An Exhibition (orchestral version)
    Rodrigo: Concierto De Aranjuez, Fantasia Para Un Gentilhombre
    Stravinsky: Petrushka, Rite Of Spring, Pulcinella
    Tchaikovsky: Violin Concerto, Nutcracker/Swan Lake suites, 1812 Overture, Marche Slav
    Wagner: miscellanous excerpts from the Ring (Szell on Sony)


    Interestingly, I don't listen to most of these much anymore -- my taste in classical music has turned to more small-scale (eg, baroque) and quieter (chamber music) stuff...
     
  11. Vinyl-Addict

    Vinyl-Addict Groovetracer Manufacturer Thread Starter

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    Thanks Peter!:)
     
  12. pinkchry

    pinkchry New Member

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    I will strongly advise getting the following lectures from theTeaching Company They are taught by Prof Robert Greenberg, and they are the best lectures I have ever heard. Get them at your local library, or buy them (not that expensive for the rewards reaped). He has other fabulous courses on opera, bach and beethoven.

    I regularly thank my friend who introduced me to these lectures!


    Swami
     
  13. Guy from Ohio

    Guy from Ohio Senior Member

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    Name some of the works, composers or solo instruments you like so far and it would be easier for us to make a suggestion close to what you might really enjoy.

    Most of what I bought on vinyl was Classical - Romantic - 20thCentury orchestral

    but my tastes changed in grad school so that most of my CDs ended up Early to Baroque, stuff I could never have endured before I like now.

    But if you like big Romantic orchestra try some Mendelssohn or Berlioz
     
  14. Roland Stone

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    I advise anyone looking to explore classical music to find a store that sells the Naxos budget line, Amadis. (You can also use "Amadis" for a label search on a good music website, like towerrecords.com.) They're all of $2.99. You can't get used or record club CDs that cheap! Yes, their CDs have a jewel box, artwork, and notes.

    Naxos is an inexpensive, high-qualty classical music label that pays cash up front for recording sessions, usually with cheaper, but no less accomplished, East European musicians. Their discs are favorably reviewed alongside those from the majors in the serious classical journals, for sound and performance.

    Naxos does not like stocking duplicate repertoire, however, and having recorded a new interpretation of one of the warhorses, they'll drop the older version to the Amadis budget line. And if Amadis doesn't have the work you're looking for, the full-price $6.99 Naxos line does.
     
  15. Peter D

    Peter D Forum Resident

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    Naxos has had a wonderful effect on the industry -- it forced the big record companies to cut prices, expand their budget lines, etc. But if you're looking for standard orchestral works -- Beethoven or Mozart symphonies, say -- I think you'll generally find better performances for the same price on Sony Essential Classics, EMI's budget lines, etc. Where Naxos really shines is in offering good performances of less well-known works, particularly chamber works. Over the years the cheap Naxos price has motivated me to pick up recordings of some great pieces (eg, Brahms clarinet sonatas, which I listened to just last night) that I probably wouldn't have gambled on if I had to pay $15.
     
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