For Love Over Gold, the old original US WB matches the W. German Target. The silver Japan pressing matches the Japan Target (Sanyo pressed).
Are you sure about this? I have a U.S. SRC pressing from the early 90's and a W. German for U.S. pressing (that I assume is the same as the WG Target) and they are different masterings. Guess we better start posting some EAC numbers I can post the numbers for my two discs this evening. . .
I have the European Vertigo 'Red Swirls' for every disc ('Brothers In Arms' has a guitar on it and 'On Every Street' is plain blue - I don't know if they are even available swirly-wise) and all the 1996 SBM Ludwig Remasters. I prefer the original discs by a narrow margin because of the intact dynamics except for Brothers in Arms as I really dislike the sterile tonality of the original. Here the SBM wins. But of course there's this castrated version of 'Sultans Of Swing' on the German Vertigo release. What was the guy thinking fading away the best studio guitar solo of all time?
You've asked for it... S/T - Com - MM - LOG - BIA - ONS Track 1 81.5 % 85.9 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 95.5 % Track 2 85.5 % 83.1 % 100.0 % 85.1 % 100.0 % 95.5 % Track 3 87.3 % 82.2 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 89.5 % 85.6 % Track 4 82.3 % 86.4 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 66.1 % 66.7 % Track 5 82.6 % 89.8 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 36.1 % 95.5 % Track 6 85.7 % 83.0 % 100.0 % n/a 100.0 % 95.5 % Track 7 79.6 % 86.6 % 100.0 % n/a 100.0 % 95.5 % Track 8 76.2 % 85.0 % n/a n/a 100.0 % 95.5 % Track 9 83.3 % 67.1 % n/a n/a 89.8 % 83.2 % Track 10 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 95.5 % Track 11 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 95.5 % Track 12 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 87.9 % Dire Straits = German Vertigo 'Swirl' Communiqué = French Vertigo 'Swirl' Making Movies = German Vertigo 'Swirl' Love Over Gold = German Vertigo 'Swirl' Brothers In Arms = French Vertigo 'Guitar' On Every Street = French Vertigo 'Blue' It certainly looked better in the editing window but I guess it's recognizable... EDIT: Apparently it didn't work out that well. Here's a screencap...
There's always the code trick to preserve fixed width fonts and spaces: Code: [SIZE="3"] S/T Com MM LOG BIA ONS Track 1 81.5% 85.9% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 95.5% Track 2 85.5% 83.1% 100.0% 85.1% 100.0% 95.5% Track 3 87.3% 82.2% 100.0% 100.0% 89.5% 85.6% Track 4 82.3% 86.4% 100.0% 100.0% 66.1% 66.7% Track 5 82.6% 89.8% 100.0% 100.0% 36.1% 95.5% Track 6 85.7% 83.0% 100.0% n/a 100.0% 95.5% Track 7 79.6% 86.6% 100.0% n/a 100.0% 95.5% Track 8 76.2% 85.0% n/a n/a 100.0% 95.5% Track 9 83.3% 67.1% n/a n/a 89.8% 83.2% Track 10 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 95.5% Track 11 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 95.5% Track 12 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a 87.9%[/SIZE]
My non-Target WG for U.S. Love Over Gold matches your Vertigo. My U.S. pressing is different: 100.0/73.5/87.7/76.4/87.5 My non-Target WG for U.S. Communique and my U.S. Communique are both different from your Vertigo: WG 100.0/99.4/97.7/100.0/100.0/99.1/100.0/100.0/82.4 US 89.8/87.3/77.8/84.4/91.6/80.7/83.4/82.7/68.2 Also, my Japan for U.S. Making Movies matches your Vertigo, but with all 100% peaks that's somewhat inconclusive. I have compared my Japan for U.S. to the WG Vertigo on several occasions and thought they sounded a little different, but I could be wrong
I have a few versions: 1. Silver disc that says "MADE IN U.S.A" at 6 o'clock right under the catalog #, there's NO matrix information around the metallic ring of the center hub on either side. EAC: 100%, 85.1%, 100%, 100%, 100% 2. Silver disc "Made In Japan" "Manufactured by Sanyo" around the core. EAC: 100%, 73.5%, 87.7%,76.4%, 87.5%. (Japan Target should be the same) 3. West Germany Target CD EAC: 100%, 85.1%, 100%, 100%, 100% My USA version appears to be different from yours.
Love Over Gold Made In Japan Target (gray paint, red crosshairs) WB 9 23728-2 matrix: 23728-2 506181 Manufactured By Sanyo Japan 100 - 73.5 - 87.7 - 76.4 - 87.5 TT: 41:22.47 Made In Germany Red Swirl Vertigo 800 088-2 matrix: 800 088-2 08 100 - 85.1 - 100 - 100 - 100 TT: 41:07.30
Do they sound significantly different to your ears? I've always thought that the Dire Straits catalogue is easy but I seem to be overly attracted to bands with a weird mastering catalogue...
So there appear to be two masterings for Love Over Gold, originating from Japan and West Germany, and U.S. pressings could have either one. I haven't had an opportunity to shoot these out yet myself, but I think they both sound good. And it appears we have at least three different early masterings for Communique. Again, I haven't had an opportunity to shoot out the two I have.
I have now had a chance to compare the WG Target to the remaster and I agree with Roland. The Target sounds much nicer. A really warm and inviting sound with nice dynamics.
They are not drastically different. Just listened to both of my copies of LOG straight through, and I have a slight preference for the German Vertigo over the Japan Target. Neither is bad, but I feel like I'm getting a bit more definition on the Vertigo.
The made in West Germany Vertigo of "Brothers In Arms" is a different mastering than the West German WB/Polygram CD. Pat
I just picked up a W. German Vertigo Orange Swirl of Love Over Gold. Can anyone who has this verify what the cover art looks like? Specifically, does it look like it was printed on a cheap color copier? Sort of fuzzy? Looks almost like a boot or a copy. The CD iteself looks genuine, but the art work looks terrible.
Nope, glossy paper, booklet has the lyrics, not fuzzy. Sounds as if you got a colour copy of the original booklet.
No lyrics in the booklet. Just the song titles. Also noticed that the date on this thing is 1994 Phonogram Ltd. London. CD is silver to the hub. No grey shaded area by the swirl. Not sure what I have here. I'm thinking the package is copied but the cd is real. Odd.
Very likely it's a fake from East Europe. On the original W. German Vertigo Orange Swirl the date written on the CD label should be "1982 Phonogram Ltd. London". The remastered version has been released in 1996 with 2 different CD labels: one with the "old" Orange Swirl pattern, which reports again "1982 Phonogram Ltd. London"; the other has different pattern (with lightning) and it reports on the label "1996 Mercury Records Ltd. London"
I'm guessing I have something fishy. It sounds good, but not as good as the vinyl. I'll just have to keep searching. At least I'm only out $8.
I bought all the remasters when they came out, but never owned Alchemy (standard U.S. release) until recently. I think it's one of the best-soundings albums in my collection.
I guess it has not the best sound. But, at least, it is a silver "factory pressed" CD: it could be a curiosity for collectors
Did not want to open a new thread so I hope someone can give me a little help: I have a question about the original USA version of "On every street": I am a happy owner of this orange Warner Bros disc but there's something wrong: the disc says "Produced by Mark Knopeler & Dire Straits"... and "Aall songs Ascap...". Were these common mistakes on early pressings or on all unremastered USA discs? Under the tracklist: PRODUCED BY MARK KNOPELER & DIRE STRAITS AALL SONGS ASCAP © ℗ 1991 PHONOGRAM LTD. (LONDON) WARNER BROS. RECORDS INC, A TIME WARNER COMPANY. MFG. BY WEA MANUFACTURING. .MADE IN USA 9 26680-2 Matrix on my copy reads TN-00˥ 8 SRC126680- 2 RAD3 Thanks in advance!
Just pulled out my copy, bought as a new release IIRC, SRC-01 matrix. It does not have these type-os.
Hello. Can someone please tell me if I want to buy dire strait cds from eithe amazon.com or amazon.co.uk Do both version sounds the same? Are they both the same because in amazon.co.uk all cds are from 1996 and in amazon.com they are from the year 2000. What about Alchemy? it wasnt remastered in the US? Thanks.
