Do brand new speakers require a break-in period?

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  1. ether-bored

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    i'm with GuildX700. speakers are comprised of physical material. the properties of material change, however minutely, with use and over time. therefore, why wouldn't the properties of a speaker evolve of the course of any length of time, much less a so called break in period...?
     
  2. GP

    GP Senior Member

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    My speakers had a strange break-in period in the beginning, and when Mike sent me my Morrow SP3 cables they had a break-in period as well. Sonically, it was like a roller-coaster ride...it was not pleasant, and not something I could get 'adjusted' to.

    I can't really explain this 'settling' effect I hear, but I've witnessed this various times, beyond speakers, and actually...it's not fun.
     
  3. raferx

    raferx Forum Resident

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    I don't agree with Alan Shaw about everything, but he is a speaker-designing genius and if he says my M30.1s are good after a couple hours, then I'm good with that, and oh-so-very good with the sound that has been coming out of them from the moment I let the current flow...
     
  4. lobo

    lobo Music has always been a matter of Energy to me...

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    Psycho acoustics. Your ears need a break in time, not your speakers. Does your light bulb shine brighter, after a break in? It's just electronics.
     
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  5. csgreene

    csgreene Forum Resident

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    I agree with the Harbeth FAQ. I read so much horsecrap on audio forums. I do my best to stay out of those threads because it's no skin off my nose if some people believe the myths but sometimes it's soooo hard to remain quiet. It's no different than discussing politics and religion; no one's mind is going to be changed. Same with cable/wire, vinyl vs. CD, or the need for break-in discussions.
     
  6. Nate

    Nate Forum Resident

    Most assuredly speaker break in is real. Speakers move and flex- I've found that the suspension is typically somewhat is stiff right out of the box and needs time to break in. Not really any different from a car- the moving components are the key plus capacitors need time (not much really) to "form"
     
  7. Ortofun

    Ortofun Well-Known Member

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    So you see a parallel between a light bulb and speakers :/

    I won't be asking you for help changing a light bulb any time soon ;)

    Drivers have a mechanical brake in due to materials as others have said.....also, crossover parts can do also, caps, inductors yada yada :)
    I'm not talking about best buys speakers....
     
  8. Wngnt90

    Wngnt90 Forum Resident

    Depends what one was burnin'......
     
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  9. utahusker

    utahusker Senior Member

    It looks like your trying to stay out of those threads:)
     
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  10. Daz

    Daz Forum Resident

    My light bulbs do, actually.

    But they are cryogenically treated.
     
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  11. csgreene

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    Hey, I said I "do my best"! I didn't claim to be perfect. :D In this case, all I said was I agree with Harbeth's take on it.
     
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  12. StereoFanOregon

    StereoFanOregon Forum Resident

    I've had many, many new speakers come thru my home for review. I have always followed the same procedure of immediately hooking them up, listening to my preferred demo tracks while taking notes at specific points. Then for the next week having them play 10 hours overnight with a blanket over them at a decent volume. Next, taking off the blanket and listening again and writing up notes. Since my ears were never "conditioned", picking up on differences is possible. Some speakers changed only slightly. Others were quite obvious. BTW, I own a pair of Alan Shaw's Harbeth Compact 7es3.
     
  13. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

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    Keep at it.
     
  14. csgreene

    csgreene Forum Resident

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    Nah. Unless only some opinions are welcome. Some people might believe some of the absolute nonsense posted on audio forums. Some people need to let them know that it's just that, nonsense. Group think is a dangerous thing, even when it comes to audio myths.
     
  15. Steve Hoffman

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    Deaf musicians.
    You've had your say, now you can back off.
     
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  16. Metralla

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  17. T'mershi Duween

    T'mershi Duween Forum Resident

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    Says the person who's posting absolute nonsense on an audio forum.
     
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  18. norman_frappe

    norman_frappe Forum Resident

    back to the topic. It's the generally held view by speaker designers that new speakers will break in after a very brief period especially if they were not at room temp previously. Will you even notice, don't know. Basically it's a non issue. If they don't sound right after a brief period something is wrong somewhere. All I know is that airplane designers, hospital equip manufacturers, train and ferry builders don't worry about break in on their electrical, fuel, navigational, HVAC, diagnostic systems, and life support systems etc and there are serious lives at stake in these cases. This seems to be a phenomena isolated to home audio paranoia for some reason.
     
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  19. Ortofun

    Ortofun Well-Known Member

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    All those things you mention are not audio, we don't listen to those other things critically, if at all....that is not their function. So there is no parallel between Audio reproduction and all those things, that is why It's confined to this hobby of ours.

    The manufacturer of my speakers runs them in for at least 100hrs, and will point out that they will get even better with a few more hundred hours up, and that is the experience of customers.

    So It's no a hard and fast thing, it will depend on the speaker, design and parts used.
     
  20. vinylkid58

    vinylkid58 Forum Resident

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    This is very much the case IMHO. Some full range "single" drivers have very light drive-trains which require a gentle break-in. There is a specific procedure written by the manufacturer to be followed.

    jeff
     
  21. Claude

    Claude Senior Member

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    Speakers are not electronics. The mechanical parts of membranes change their caracteristics during the break in

    I haven't noticed break in benefits with electronics yet. If they exist, they are much smaller than with speakers, headphones or phono cartridges.
     
  22. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Forum Resident

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    I've re-foamed several speakers over the years, and it's a drastic change in sound from the tired, starting to rot foam to the new, tight foam.

    And once re-foamed, there is MOST CERTAINLY a change in sound as they are played over several weeks and the new surround breaks in.
     
  23. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

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    I don't know if it's really a break-in period...or simply your ears getting used to new stuff.
     
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  24. whaiyun

    whaiyun Forum Resident

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    Yes, electronics and cones. I noticed a distinct improvement on my focals as I played it more.
     
  25. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

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    Again, this is assuming I am only listening to one system. All electronics need break-in. My Esoteric and my APL need many hours to break in. My new tubes needed to break in. My stereo needs about an hour to warm up.

    My Esoteric sounded good at first listen but sounded much more open and natural after two months.
     
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