Does vinyl need an Analog certification agency (like the organic certification)?

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  1. Robert C

    Robert C Forum Resident

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    Why should the labels risk damaging their masters for such small projects?
     
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  2. dobyblue

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    The Beatles in Mono did not use digital delay and was true AAA.

    Yes, which is why it's important to note that MOFI's Original Master Recording series doesn't necessarily mean analogue, it just means the original master is used.
     
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  3. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Sorry, but what is "OG"?
     
  4. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

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    OG = 'Original Gangsta" = 1st press

    I don't know when I started doing that, but that's how I began referring to them at the record store back in the day.

    RE = remastered
    RI = reissued
    OG = 1st pressing

    Shorthand, works for CD or LP.
     
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  5. dobyblue

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    My fave BIA is the 5.1 24/96 PCM from the DualDisc's DVD-Audio side, but I haven't heard the MOFI. At some point I'd like to check out the MOFI SACD, can't afford the vinyl, still Chuck did a really, really good surround mix and it's hard to imagine The Man's Too Strong sounding any more amazing than it does in 5.1
     
  6. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Ah. Thank you.

    Y'know, I have both the original RL US LP as well as the original UK LP. I liken the MoFi 45 (which I had in my possession at one point) to the digital 120fps (or whatever that hyper resolution format is referred to as) as weird looking. It's so hyper-detailed, it looks unreal. I know of only a few films that have actually been released in that format, but I remember sneaking into a theater to see one and it looked like hyper-real video. For me, the MoFi shows off the lesser aspects of the early digital recording. I feel like that both the UK and US engineers tuned the recording as to how it would sound best. The MoFi has, admittedly, a greater dynamic range. But tonally it's weird, the way the 120fps digital print is.
     
  7. AlienRendel

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    Maybe it can be as big a joke & ripoff as the organic certification is!
     
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  8. uzn007

    uzn007 Watcher of the Skis

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    All-digital albums were being produced as early as the late 70s (Bop Till You Drop). And also this:

     
  9. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    I'm not all that concerned with AAA, but I would like an agency to put a warning sticker on many records that says something like "This record is limp and wimpy, and has no grit in the grooves".
     
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  10. DTK

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    Desire, really? What step was digital there?
     
  11. Solitaire1

    Solitaire1 Carpenters Fan

    Why does the song "Dog Police" come to mind?

     
  12. DTK

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    Either that, or stop them making claims about "analog warmth" and other bs.
     
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  13. eddiel

    eddiel Senior Member

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    Oh you can put money on record labels doing AAA and charging even more than AP (who have to actually license these things which costs money) does because it's a "premium" product.
     
  14. AnalogJ

    AnalogJ Hearing In Stereo Since 1959

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    Analog Spark is another one working AAA.
     
  15. Solitaire1

    Solitaire1 Carpenters Fan

    It seems to me that indicating an all-analog process is what people are asking for. Thus, what if they include a simple "PA" mark on the record/tape. "PA" is short for "Pure Analog" and would indicate that the final release is the result of a pure analog process with absolutely nothing digital involved.

    Of course, you'd also need to have a "PA" certification on your audio equipment too...
     
  16. Chemguy

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    More regulations? Nah.
     
  17. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Independent Head

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    The certification logo could be a buggy whip.

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    Buggy whips, used to prod the horses harnessed to wagons and carriages, started to become obsolete when automobiles appeared in the late 19th century. Today, any line of business facing the life-or-death challenge of a digital age will be described, sooner or later, as a contemporary buggy whip maker...

    The buggy whip analogy is “an obscurity sitting on an anachronism,” said Daniel M. G. Raff, an associate professor of management at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.


    Failing Like a Buggy Whip Maker? Better Check Your Simile
     
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  18. Mr Bass

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    This thread brought to mind something vaguely similar that happened with hi rez digital a few years ago. Wasn't there some association that was going to verify whether the issue was below CD, CD or hirez? They had little acronyms like CD-H or something.
     
  19. Ironclaw

    Ironclaw Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    There’s a thousand reasons chemical-intensive agriculture is not good. But that’s another discussion.
     
  20. moonshiner

    moonshiner Forum Resident

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    It doesn't sound digital to me at all
     
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  21. Ironclaw

    Ironclaw Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    This is where a vinyl magazine (cough Analog Planet) could have multiple iterations of a record (if a record presser with an all analog capability volunteered or were lightly compensated for their services for an afternoon) made with different production methods. I’d be willing to bet a group of experienced record listeners would find the AAA version the best sounding after repeat listening (double blind). Until this is done, we’re all giving our best conjecture.
     
  22. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Digital has a sound?
    I can't detect it here :shrug:
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  23. KOWHeigel

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    I agree 100 percent.
     
  24. Ironclaw

    Ironclaw Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I wasn’t talking about a law, heck Analog Planet could do the whole thing: ask the several questions of the label/pros, offer the hype “AAA” stickers, and promote their webzine at the same time through it.
     
  25. moonshiner

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    I'm not against digital and I still buy CDs and SACDs, but 60s and 70s records sound different on my system
     
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