Doobie Brothers the Captain and Me half speed

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by oneslip17, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. oneslip17

    oneslip17 Active Member

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Has anyone heard the most recent pressing of the Doobie Brothers the Captain and Me half speed master? It just started shipping from Music Direct a few weeks ago. What do you all consider the definitive version of this album. I have an unknown pressing from the 70's, and the WB regular CD. I would like to hear the DVD-A version of this album, but it seems that its a multichannel format only. Any comments? Thanks!
     
  2. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

    Location:
    Hyannis Ma
    Olive label WB US. I had a German LP WEA/WB that was real close too.

    This record is often found in the dollar bin, don't forget, even 1st pressings.
     
  3. Bill S

    Bill S Well-Known Member

    Actually, the DVD-Audio is a two-sided disc with stereo on one side and surround on the other. I think it sounds great.
     
  4. oneslip17

    oneslip17 Active Member

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    REALLY!?!?! You just made me one happy man! Thank you!
     
  5. pharmboycu

    pharmboycu Active Member

    Location:
    Fayetteville, NC
    This is a great album that really deserves the Hoffman treatment.

    I have 2 LP copies, both on the palm WB label. Just out of curiosity, was this LP ever issued in quadraphonic? I ask because although I can find no discernable markings on one copy it's distinctly different from the other-- parts just aren't there, more like you can barely hear them in the background-- whereas the other copy is full and intact. I've got no way to play quadraphonic LP's, so I don't know how to tell for sure.

    John
     
  6. johmbolaya

    johmbolaya Active Member

    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    You can play quad albums in stereo, you just won't get the effects as intended, but yes, the album was released in quad. Catalog # for it is BS4-2694. There's one on eBay now, has the QuadraDisc logo right below the "The" in "The Doobie Brothers"
     

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  7. oneslip17

    oneslip17 Active Member

    Location:
    Portland, OR
    For anyone who is interested, don't buy the new 1/2 speed master. It does not sound good. There is no headroom and it sounds like everything above 12K is rolled off. Although it sounds like a very quiet pressing, I have my eye on the DVD-A, I'm hoping for the best.
     
  8. Abacab

    Abacab Active Member

    Location:
    Millers, MD, USA
    Ever buy the DVD-A? I am thinking about it but they run some 90 bucks new on Amazon
     
  9. David P. Hill

    David P. Hill Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Irving, Tx
    What about the Speaker Corners, "The Captain and Me that Kevin Gray remastered? How does it sound?
     
  10. Doctorwu

    Doctorwu Well-Known Member

    I have it as well and i agree with your assessment, it's a very dull and disappointing version, i also have friday's music "America" pressing which also is very disappointing.
     
  11. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    I never heard an US first press, but the original German copy I have is one of the most impressive LPs in my collection.
     
  12. Eddie Williamson

    Eddie Williamson Active Member

    Really? I have US WB WLP and, typical of Ted Templeman productions, there is little bass and thin sound. Hardly a reference-grade recording. IMHO, of course.
     
  13. NewKidInTown

    NewKidInTown Well-Known Member

    Location:
    York, PA, USA
    Thanks for the heads-up on this. I too have been wondering about the new vinyl release and was contemplating whether or not to buy...I was lucky enough to get the DVD-A of this from our Forum classifieds and really look forward to hearing it. I would still like to have a really nice sounding LP of this though. Can anyone comment on the question posed earlier about the Speaker's Corner pressing? What about Nautilus half-speed? I'm always looking for the olive green WB but no luck so far...
     
  14. Randy W

    Randy W Active Member

    The olive WB US original I have sounds great. The quad is OK. The Nautilus is OK. The DVD-A is fantastic. Have not listened to my SC yet.
     
  15. McLover

    McLover Forum Resident

    Location:
    East TN
    Get yourself a West German pressing on LP. That's as good as vinyl gets or get an Olive Green US pressing. Both sound very nice. Much less outlay on top of that! :goodie:
     
  16. simon-wagstaff

    simon-wagstaff Forum Resident

    The DVD-a disc is one of the better sounding Hi rez discs I have. Well worth it, though I bought mine for 15 bucks when it first came out.....
     
  17. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    The West-german pressing is the LP I usually grab for reference or to impress my friends. :D Not thin at all. Very nice bass and treble extension, very balanced sound.

    Just like you said.
     
  18. Eddie Williamson

    Eddie Williamson Active Member

    I will have to re-audition this, then. I assume a US WLP is as good as it gets, but who knows... Not a huge Doobs fan, so I will not investigate further in terms of acquiring pressing variations, but I will clean & listen and report back.
     
  19. RTurner

    RTurner Forum Resident

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    Los Angeles, CA
    +1
    :edthumbs:
     
  20. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

    Location:
    Seattle
    The Captain & Me is one of my favorite albums.

    I recently picked up the Friday Music half speed / 180 gram vinyl (2009). It sounds excellent. It even beats a number of original cuttings, which are all over the place due to so many cuttings (a huge selling LP). The 180 gram is nicely balanced, with a clean, smooth extended low end, smooth top end (not rolled off or dull as reported), quiet surfaces, and cleaner detail than any other copy except the US -1C and late 1970's white label -1A cuttings. To me it sounds similar to Steve's A.P. Creedence vinyls as they relate to the best CCR originals: more open sounding, warm, smooth extension top & bottom, overall a slightly more relaxed or polite presentation. The most 'audiophile sounding' release of this album that I listened to. The US -1A, 1B & 1C are all compressed in comparison to the 180 gram. Because of this they come across with better attack, they rock a bit harder.

    Copies compared: original US -1A, -1B, -1C plus unlettered -1, -2 and -3, late 1970's W/B white label with -1A, UK Kinney cutting & German (palm tree labels). I didn't include the old Nautilus pressing as its too brightly EQ'd for my tastes. The UK & German are nicely mastered & quiet but lack the resolution and presence of the better US copies. The un-lettered 1, 2 & 3 are just OK, nothing special.
     
  21. chacha

    chacha Forum Resident

    Location:
    mill valley CA USA
    You have an olive pressing of this? I thought the palm tree was the first.
     
  22. chacha

    chacha Forum Resident

    Location:
    mill valley CA USA
    I love the sound of this album too. I have a -1B palm which I think sounds great. Does the 1C sound better to you?
     
  23. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Forum Resident

    Location:
    Seattle
    Yes, the 1C is a cleaner sounding cutting. The 1A and 1B sides all have a surface noise like sound in some of the quiet spots. I thought it was just the vinyl but after comparing two dozen or more copies (both olive & palm tree labels, pressed years apart) realized it has to be a product of the cutting itself. Same slight, underlying paper rustling / shearing noise in the exact same spots. Never found a 1A or 1B without it. Its not a problem once the music gets going.

    The olive label gave way to the burbank (palm tree) label in 1973.
     
  24. MYKE

    MYKE Rest In Peace Mama A

    James...this album, one of my top 5 favorites, was released March 2nd, 1973.
    In a short 9 months, Warners used two different labels...just how often might a label change it's appearance ????
     
  25. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Forum Resident

    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I have the original US pressing.
    I have the CD-4 Quad record
    I have the DVD-A.

    The truth is, the two surround discs have the best sound. The CD-4 record sounds better decoded (but I haven't been able to do that in 20 years). The DVD-A surround mix is almost the same mix. The stereo side of the DVD-A beats the original vinyl pressing, although I find it a bit bright.

    I dismantled my surround set up about a year and half ago - going for good old two channel, so I am NOT a total surround sound advocate. Yet... both the CD-4 Quadradisc and the DVD-A 5.1 mix are, hands down, the best music surround mixes I've ever heard.
     

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