Doors cd confusion

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by KWDJ, Dec 28, 2013.

  1. tootull

    tootull I tried to catch my eye but I looked the other way

    Location:
    Canada
    CD
    2006 -2007 Remixed (made in Canada)
    The Doors R2 101184
    Strange Days R2 101183
    Waiting For The Sun R2 101191
    The Soft Parade R2 101187
    Morrison Hotel R2 101173
    L.A. Woman R2 101155


    Add ?
    1995 (Canada)
    Greatest Hits WTVD 61860
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2014
  2. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    The intention of my post was to point out that Absolutely Live was released between M. Hotel and LAW. To me it's as important as the 6 studio Morrison albums. I have no idea why The Doors don't include this album in all the boxsets released over the years. Played the heck out of it when I was a kid. It's a great Jim Morrison era Doors record!
     
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  3. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    Thanks.

    One thing that may be confusing everyone (if the information I have is correct) is the CDs from the 2006 Perception box have the original mix [the remix is on the DVD], and the individual 2007 CDs have the 2 channel remix taken from the Perception DVD.

    Do these Canada pressings have the HDCD logo on the art or CD? I have the "The Soft Parade" (8122-79998-1 - manufactured in EU) which doesn't have the logo. I don't have a HDCD player to check this.

    Remix produced, engineered and mixed by Bruce Botnick
    Mastered by Bruce Botnick at Uniteye, Ujai, CA

    Sure. Any mastering information on this one?

    I wish they had left the track sequence the same as the original LP with "Not To Touch The Earth" and the studio "Roadhouse Blues" (or edit out Morrison's talking from the live version.) The Japan CD has these additional tracks.

    Greatest Hits - WPCR-537 (reissued 1998 - AMCY-2648 / 2000 - AMCY-6173)

    additional tracks:
    Love Her Madly
    Ghost Song
    The End (from Apocolypse Now)
    Wintertime Love (alternate vocal - Japan CD only)
     
  4. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    I picked up the 2012 Waiting For The Sun CD for $5 last night. Although I am not able to compare it to anything else right now, it does not sound like the remix to me. I need to go back and listen to "Wintertime Love" to check the vocal track.
     
  5. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    HDCD

    1999- Remasters packaged in jewel cases, purchased when they were released are all HDCD encoded.
    (no mention of hdcd in credits or on the labels)

    2009- Audio Fidelity- both titles are HDCD encoded.
     
  6. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    What color is the label of the cd and what record company is it issued on.
     
  7. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    Is it this one? Does anyone know which mastering this is?

    - original mix/no mastered by credit. No bonus tracks.

    The Doors
    Strange Days
    Waiting for the Sun (R2-531886) ( "Wintertime Love" has wrong vocal)
    The Soft Parade
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A. Woman

    Thanks.
     
  8. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    The disc has a tan label and shows the Rhino and DMC logos. In that way, it resembles the 2007 remaster.
     
  9. tootull

    tootull I tried to catch my eye but I looked the other way

    Location:
    Canada
    (Canada) 2006-2007 remixes are not HDCD - they contain CD text.
    ----------------------------------------------------------->
    1995 CD track listing - Greatest Hits
    Remastered by Bruce Botnick

    1. "Hello, I Love You" – 2:12
    2. "Light My Fire" – 7:05
    3. "People Are Strange" – 2:09
    4. "Love Me Two Times" – 3:14
    5. "Riders On The Storm" – 7:09
    6. "Break On Through" – 2:26
    7. "Roadhouse Blues" (live) – 6:12
    8. "Touch Me" (Krieger) – 3:10
    9. "L.A. Woman" – 7:47
    10. "Love Her Madly" – 3:17
    11. "The Ghost Song" – 4:10
    12. "The End" – 6:28 (From Apocalypse Now, edited for George S. Clinton).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_(The_Doors_album)
     
  10. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
  11. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    Thanks.

    1999 original mix releases - HDCD encoded
    2007 remix releases - No HDCD / CD text


    Too bad about the "Greatest Hits" CD track list. It was a good LP.

    Hello, I Love You
    Light My Fire
    People Are Strange
    Love Me Two Times
    Riders On The Storm

    Break On Through
    Roadhouse Blues
    Not To Touch The Earth
    Touch Me
    L.A. Woman
     
  12. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    Remix. It's a reissue of the Perception DVD-Audio mastering, only on SACD.
     
  13. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    Update.


    Please post any additions or corrections.




    1983

    Alive She Cried - mastered by Bernie Grundman [LP credit?]


    1985

    - original mix/no mastering credit

    The Doors
    Strange Days
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A Woman
    Waiting For The Sun
    The Best Of The Doors
    - original mixes/mastered by Bruce Botnick at Digital Magnetics, Los Angeles, CA.

    The Soft Parade is not part of this series.


    1987

    Live At The Hollywood Bowl - no mastering credit


    1988

    - original mix/mastered by Paul A. Rothchild, Bruce Botnick, and The Doors

    The Doors
    Strange Days
    Waiting For The Sun
    ( "Wintertime Love" has wrong vocal take)
    The Soft Parade
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A. Woman



    1991

    In Concert - original mixes/mastered by Paul A. Rothchild and Bruce Botnick at Digital Magnetics, Los Angeles, CA.

    "Comprised of live recordings previously found on 'Absolutely Live', 'Alive She Cried' and 'Live At The Hollywood Bowl'
    with the exception of 'The End', until now unavailable on record."



    1993

    - DCC 24 karat gold CD - original mix/mastered by Steve Hoffman.

    The Doors
    Strange Days
    Waiting For The Sun
    L.A. Woman



    1995

    An American Prayer (61812-2)
    Greatest Hits (Canada: WTVD 61860; Germany 61860-2)


    1996

    Absolutely Live - original mix/remastered by Paul A. Rothchild, Bruce Botnick and The Doors.


    1997

    Box Set - mastered by Bruce Botnick

    http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C08


    1999

    The Complete Studio Recordings (aka The Cube) HDCD

    http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C09

    - original mix

    - Remastered from the original 2 track masters to 96kHz 24 bit by Bruck Botnick and Bernie Grundman
    at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, California, U.S.A., August 1999


    - titles also released separately

    The Doors ("Break On Through" has high/"The End" has F bombs)
    Strange Days
    Waiting For The Sun
    The Soft Parade
    (75005-2)
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A Woman
    Essential Rarities
    (E2 62530) mastered by Bruce Botnick

    - is "Essential Rarities" HDCD encoded since the tracks come from "Box Set"?



    2000

    L.A. Woman - DVD-Audio - 62612-9 - original mix + 5.1 surround mix/mastered by Bruce Botnick at 96 khz/24 bit resolution.

    - Photo Gallery, Lyrics, Bio, Video "The Changeling"



    2006

    Perception - 40th Anniversary Box (with bonus tracks) - CD + DVD-A

    - Mastered by Bruce Botnick

    - track listings and bonus tracks: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C18

    - CD: 96kHz 24bit audio original mix (2006 mastering)

    - DVD: 2 channel 40th Anniversary remix / 5.1 DTS encoded surround sound mix.

    The Doors ("Break On Through" high/"The End" F bombs )
    Strange Days
    Waiting For The Sun
    The Soft Parade
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A. Woman


    - reissued in 2007 without the peephole on the box.

    - The remixes from the DVD were released individually on CD in 2007


    2007

    Remix versions from the 2006 40th Anniversary Perception box with bonus tracks - CD text.

    Remix produced, engineered and mixed by Bruce Botnick
    Mastered by Bruce Botnick at Uniteye, Ujai, CA


    The Doors (Canada: R2 101184)
    Strange Days (Can: R2 101183)
    Waiting For The Sun (Can: R2 101191)
    The Soft Parade (Can: R2 101187; US: 8122-79998-2)
    Morrison Hotel (Can: R2 101173)
    L.A. Woman (Can: R2 101155)


    2009

    - Audio Fildelity 24 karat gold CD (HDCD) - original mix/mastered by Steve Hoffman

    The Soft Parade (AFZ ****) - bonus track: The Soft Parade (40th Anniversary remix)

    Morrison Hotel (AFZ 037-2) -bonus track: Roadhouse Blues (40th Anniversary remix), Waiting for the Sun (40th Anniversary remix)

    - matrix for corrected version is: $AFZ037 B9A14N (mastering SID code for mine was IFPI L532)


    2011

    The Doors - WPCR-14174 - Hybrid SACD (Japan - 2011/9/28)

    - 2006 40th Anniversary remix and 5.1 surround sound


    2012

    - original mix/no mastered by credit. No bonus tracks.

    The Doors
    Strange Days
    Waiting for the Sun
    (R2-531886) ( "Wintertime Love" has wrong vocal take)
    The Soft Parade
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A. Woman


    - any additional information about this series? Does "The Doors" have the high/F-bomb versions?



    L.A Woman - 40th Anniversary Edition 2 CD set - mastered by Bruce Botnick

    Deluxe two CD edition, released to coincide with the 40th Anniversary of this iconic album. This release features a never-before-heard song, 'She Smells So Nice', which captures the band--organist Ray Manzarek, guitarist Robby Krieger, drummer John Densmore and late singer Jim Morrison joyfully barreling through a full-throttle original before segueing into the Blues standard 'Rock Me'. The track was recently discovered by producer Bruce Botnick while reviewing the L.A. Woman session tapes. In addition to 'She Smells So Nice', the second disc includes eight never-before-heard versions of songs offering a fresh view on this landmark album, which was the group s sixth straight Top 10. The studio chatter between the songs is a revelation, transporting listeners to The Doors Workshop: the West Hollywood rehearsal space where they recorded the album with Botnick. One segment in particular captures a fascinating moment of inspiration when Morrison suggests they add the now-iconic thunderstorm sound effects to the beginning of 'Riders On The Storm'.

    Is this the original mix?



    Hybrid SACD

    http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=search

    - original mix + 5.1 surround mix

    - mastered by Doug Sax


    "The surround sound program on the Doors SACDs comes from the original 96K, 24-bit files
    mixed and mastered by Bruce Botnick for the DVD-Audio Perception release."


    "[mastered] from the original analog masters by Doug Sax, with the exception of The Doors,
    which was made from the best tape copy."


    The Doors
    Strange Days
    Waiting For The Sun
    The Soft Parade
    Morrison Hotel
    L.A. Woman


    Infinite - box with all six SACD - http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=detail&Title_ID=83212
     
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  14. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    Essential Rarities is HDCD encoded.

    *Disc 1 from LAW Deluxe is the original mix and HDCD encoded Disc 2 not HDCD encoded
    * note disc 1 from LAW deluxe 48:33
    99 remaster 48:51
     
  15. Chris Haley

    Chris Haley Music Lover Lurker

    Location:
    VA Beach, VA
    Thanks pig whisperer for clearing that up about the Perception CD remastering. Makes sense the Perception CD main album tracks are not the 1999 remasters since there are no credits to both Bruce Botnick and Bernie Grundman in the Perception booklets. I don't own any of the 1999 remasters to compare, but I'll take your word for it as I've just read other comparisons stating the same thing. Those folks were stating too that the Perception CDs are 2006 remasters of the original mixes.

    The only credit in the Perception booklets that deal with mastering is "Surround Sound and Stereo Mastering by Bruce Botnick." So that applies to both the CDs and DVDs. Sorry I said earlier it only applied to the DVDs.

    I think the major source of confusion is how the separately released 2007 40th anniversary CDs with the 40th anniversary remixes had the same bonus tracks as the Perception boxset CDs. Thanks again!
     
  16. Chauncey

    Chauncey Forum Resident

    Location:
    Cleveland, OH
    I am a thoroughly confused Doors fan! This thread has helped BIG TIME. But I still can not figure out how to find what I am looking for. I've been searching for the best CD source of the original mix of "Break On Through" (without "high") for a long time. Unfortunately I can't afford the gold CD. Any recommendations on a hits compilation or pressing of S/T that contains the original mixes and edit(s)? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    I own Perception, A Collection (2007 remixes), Very Best Of (2007 remixes), and Legacy: Absolute Best Of (original mixes, but has "she gets high"). I also bought the Complete Collection from hdtracks (original mixes and edits!).
     
  17. tootull

    tootull I tried to catch my eye but I looked the other way

    Location:
    Canada
    L.A. Woman 2000
    DVD-A - 5.1 produced & mixed by Bruce Botnick from the original 8-track analog masters - Audio authoring and mastering supervisor, Al McPherson.
    Mixing studio, Bernie Grundman Mastering.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2014
  18. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    So WEA issued new masters of the original mixes on CD in 2006 (for Perception) and then issued new masters of remixes on CD in 2007? If so, is Perception the only place to get the 2oo6 remasters?
     
  19. Encuentro

    Encuentro Forum Resident

    The SACD s/t does not contain the high/f-chant, nor does it have the speed-corrected Light My Fire. Both the vinyl and SACDs were mastered with the intention of keeping them historically accurate/as close to the original releases as possible.

    From the Analogue Productions website:
    The Doors self-titled 1967 release famously contains some incorrect speed and pitch issues. While there have been "corrected" versions made, in the interests of being historically accurate, this Analogue Productions reissue was cut without speed or pitch correction.
    http://analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=detail&Title_ID=78309
     
  20. rpd

    rpd Senior Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    The more I read, the more I am convinced that the cube box set really brings nothing to the party. Am I wrong?
     
  21. Encuentro

    Encuentro Forum Resident

    No. If you don't care for or like "high" in Break On Through or the f-chant in The End, then there's no point if you have the SACDs or the DCCs/AFs.
     
  22. rpd

    rpd Senior Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    Which set(s) have the speed corrected light my fire?

    Is the 40th anniversary cd speed corrected? Is the "remix" by definition speed corrected?
     
  23. Encuentro

    Encuentro Forum Resident

    The remix was the first to have the speed-corrected version which sounded amazing when I first heard it, but I love both versions. The iTunes version also has the speed-corrected version. I'm not sure if the HD Tracks version has the speed-corrected version or the as originally released version. All of the other CD versions have the original version.
     
  24. reb

    reb Money Beats Soul

    Location:
    Long Island
    PW
    The 1988 release of Soft Parade is scarce as a stock copy. Many copies I see are either BMG or Columbia House record club issues.
     
  25. rpd

    rpd Senior Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    So, I am back to selling my perception box and my cube, then just picking up the 40th anniversary remix CDs down the road... Seems like a good plan since I like those sacd's...
     

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