Elvis "Burning Love" rare dedicated mono DJ mix. It stinks but it's sure different!

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  1. Steve Hoffman

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    Indy Mike sent this to me. My RCA-Victor 45 is stereo from day one. Guess I've never heard this before. Dreadful mix but pretty unique.

    I guess this is what AM stations played on the radio....

     
  2. DirkM

    DirkM Forum Resident

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    I, um...I actually like the way the bass is featured in this mix...

    *Runs and hides*
     
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  3. Ethan B

    Ethan B Forum Resident

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    It sounds slightly warped or off center.
     
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  4. Joel Cairo

    Joel Cairo Video Gort / Paiute Warrior Staff

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    Exactly how far down the street was Elvis from the rest of the band when they recorded this...?

    - Kevin
     
  5. cwitt1980

    cwitt1980 Senior Member

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    It's just his chest a-heavin.
     
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  6. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    yes it stinks! damn the stereo mix is light years better...where's the drums?
     
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  7. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest

    This dub
    The drums buried/bass way upfront was what caught my attention when I came across that dub.
     
  8. indy mike

    indy mike Forum Pest



    I ran across this stereo 45 dub when looking for a mono mix Brown Sugar being discussed in another thread:

    Rolling Stones - Brown Sugar - Vinyl Play

    Drums and guitar are up in the mono Brown Sugar mix - sorta the opposite tack taken with the mono Burning Love.
     
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  9. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    It sounds way off centered. I had to stop listening.
     
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  10. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

  11. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    Wow. Hadn't heard this before. It is a bit wonky, but I kind of like it.
     
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  12. andrewskyDE

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    Very uneven. Elvis is totally hidden behind that bass.
     
  13. Thievius

    Thievius Blue Oyster Cult-ist

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    Its been about 40 years since I listened seriously to Elvis, so my memory is hazy, but aside from the off center wavy sound, this seems fairly consistent with what I heard as a child. :shrug: But again, its been a few decades.
     
  14. Rick Bartlett

    Rick Bartlett Forum Resident

    Elvis' vocal is too far back in the mix, and yeap, off centre big time.
    what's up with that damn bass in the fore front?
    nasty!
     
  15. dreambear

    dreambear Forum Resident

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    This clip from the studio is fun to see. It´s a mock session out take for the film "Elvis On Tour", but it gives an idea of how the song was recorded. Nice to see a glimplse of Emory Gordy on bass guitar. And working live with hand mike was really different and probably a real headache when it came to separate the channels in the final mix.
     
  16. Chris C

    Chris C Music was my first love and it will be my last!

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    I realize that the example of that mono promo mix was just an example, but damn, that off-center playback was brutal to sit through. No doubt that the entire "bottom end" and "thump" of the stereo version is missing on the mono promo mix. I would have rather had my AM transistor radio fall out of my hand from the "thump" of the stereo mix, then to have to suffice living with that "weakened at the knees" mono mix. Of course, I was only 11 years old when "Burning Love" was originally released and I was far too busy at that time wondering if I had a shot at any of the three young girls who just moved across the street, who were into "Tie A Yellow Ribbon Round The Ole Oak Tree"! Talk about a hunk, a hunk of BURNING Love, LOL
     
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  17. I did too. But comparing it to the version on the Gold CD comp (my only source), the stereo one has much nicer drums and piano, and Elvis himself isn't burried.
     
  18. dance_hall_keeper

    dance_hall_keeper Forum Resident

    Do I hear cowbell?
     
  19. bartels76

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    Despite the off-center it sounds more like a Pop Mix of the song. Interesting.
     
  20. Chris C

    Chris C Music was my first love and it will be my last!

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    This thread, at the VERY least deserves an equally off-center STEREO version of the single (Not my video) ...

     
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  21. It's funny that I hear the off-center effect on the pitch here, in the intro... but not in the clip of the mono version!!.. :hide:
     
  22. IanM007

    IanM007 CDs, please!

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    "Pretty unique" - ? Is that like being 'pretty dead'?!

    You can't pre-modify an absolute!
     
  23. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    RCA Victor spent the money for a dedicated mono mix for a reason here. The bass was tamed for a reason also. And the drums toned down for a reason. I know why. Let's hear your rationale for why the Stereo should have been aired on the average, older, AM air chain in use in much of small and mid town America then? Meaning that there was a CBS Volumax in the air chain at very best for processing, an older tube era console a la Gatesway, old Gates CB 77 turntables with Gray Viscous Damped tonearms, GE VR II cartridges in a few holdouts, and the transmitter a Gates BC 1T, BC5P, or BC10P, or similar. Older but not used up. Steve probably knows why also about that mono mix. Remember when this track was new, something even older than that airchain was what I began maintaining and operating from young. My reality was a Gates SA 40 board, Gates CB 11 turntables (which didn't play 45 RPM discs without a conversion kit, by then on all the time), Gray 108 tonearms, GE VR II cartridges, and the processing was a Gates Sta-Level, and the transmitter was a Gates BC-5P (the newest part of the system, installed in 1965). 1973 was when things got upgraded in that studio. And this was Oak Ridge, TN at that.
     
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  24. mikrt17

    mikrt17 Life has surface noise.

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    The backing vocals are way too loud you can hardly hear Elvis during the choruses
     
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  25. Yes, but conversely, on the stereo mix, they're too low!
     
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