EVERY Billboard #1 hit discussion thread 1958-Present

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by alphanguy, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. pickwick33

    pickwick33 Forum Resident

    National. You don't make it to the pop Top 10 in Billboard magazine by being a regional hit.

    There's a site called ARSA which lists nothing but radio station playlists over the years. Nowadays, you have to register and log in to cross-reference these lists (ugh!), but it used to be you could type in the name of a song and see how well it did. I've never cross-checked "Oh Happy Day," but I've seen it on enough 1969 playlists while looking for something else.

    Chicago.

    Like I said earlier, the Top 40 was far more diverse back then. Remember, Henry Mancini raced to #1 that same year with an MOR piano instrumental. I'm quite sure that no PD banned him for not sounding like the Archies. SSgt. Barry Sadler had a freak hit in '66 with "Ballad Of The Green Berets." Even though he sounded nothing like ? & the Mysterians, it didn't stop him from shooting straight to the top.
     
  2. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

    Location:
    Arizona
    It was faddish, but 100% sincere.


    I'm thinking more about labels like bbr, Charley, and, yes, Kent. When I have the original vinyl, I know they screw things up.

    I started buying oldies CDs in the mid-80s, but I was still alive when the music on them came out the first time. I got into stuff made before 1963 via Time-Life CDs if we didn't already have the records. I remember the first time I heard the likes of Rosemary Clooney, Frankie Laine, and Doris Day on a CD I bought. I sat there wondering how people could like this stuff over Elvis or Chuck Berry.

    I remember playing "Go Away Little Girl" and "Yo-Yo" every morning before school! I had about a half an hour alone in the house before I had to leave, so I could blast the stereo and not annoy anyone. Later on, I bought a Three Dog Night and Michael Jackson 45. Those two didn't bother anyone. But, then I got a Partridge Family album. Don't judge me.
    It wasn't, and it served its purpose. In fact, I like all those songs...except for "Spirit In The Sky". My sister's favorite song of that genre was "Day By Day", influenced by her church youth group.

    I have yet to see a single 45 from that company that is flat.
     
  3. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

    Location:
    Arizona
    Not quite so. Back in those days, radio, and record sales, were still somewhat regional. You could have a Billboard top 10 hit and still have markets or regions where it was never played. There are lots of top 10 hits in the 70s that I never heard of until the CD age.

    I almost signed up for it last week. They just want to track people so they don't misuse the data. That doesn't bother me. I just hate going through the sign up process, and getting spam mail and such.

    My father lived half of his childhood in Chicago. I have family there. He was living there when he bought the Jesus Christ Superstar album. That's how I acquired it. It was his, and he was an atheist! He liked it for the artistry, not the story. I discovered O.C. Smith through him.

    My family, and I, are big Henry Mancini fans. I'm one of the few people on this thread who like "Love Theme from Romeo And Juliet".

    Payola, in it's many alternative forms, was still rampant in the 60s and 70s.
     
  4. Manapua

    Manapua Forum Resident

    Location:
    Honolulu
    I really got into Jesus Christ Superstar despite being non-religious. I admired what they did, even did a report on it in high school and got an A! It was pretty big here as Yvonne Elliman is a native and thus, like Liz Damon's Orient Express hit 1900 Yesterday from the same time frame, was a drawing card here.
    Sorry to hear I'm detestable since I've used the term "act" as a description. It doesn't bother me in the least but I'll try to refrain from it in the future.
    Here's that Liz Damon song for those who don't know it:

     
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  5. george nadara

    george nadara Forum Resident

    Location:
    USA
    In Muncie, Indiana, WERK was the popular Top 40 AM station. On their 10 May 1969 WERK sheet (a weekly free chart), "Oh Happy Day" by the Edwin Hawkins Singers debuts at #6. On the 24 May 1969 chart, the song is at #2, with the Beatles "Get Back" at #1.

    Not only did "Oh Happy Day" get broadcast, it was broadcast with regularity. I was 14-years-old and according to my marking system on the WERK sheets, I liked the song. Still do.
     
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  6. W.B.

    W.B. Forum Resident

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    New York, NY, USA
    May be why other labels changed their names - for the proverbial legal reasons, another label with the same name, etc.
     
  7. pickwick33

    pickwick33 Forum Resident

    I saw that. Misuse the data how? It's not like they invented the information.


    Same here. I haven't done it for fear that it would be a long-winded process that took all day.



    You can pay the DJs to play it, but not the public to buy it. Dick Clark used to tell a story about how he played a dud Tommy Sands 45 for something like an entire month to prove that point.​
     
  8. Tim S

    Tim S Forum Resident

    Location:
    East Tennessee
    "Oh happy day" got played plenty on the top 40 stations I listened to. Agree with most salient point: if a song makes national billboard top 10, it's getting a lot of national play.
     
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  9. John22

    John22 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Northern Germany
    On the German Wikipedia website is a story about the song and the release and how radio stations helped that the song reached the Top 10. With 1,800 Dollar an album was recorded and 500 copies produced. Pavilion Records made another 1,000 copies. DJ Abe „Voco“ Keshishian got one copy and gave the song intensive airplay on radio station KSAN (FM) in San Francisco. Another radio station took the song in their playlist. Neil Bogart of Buddah Records heard the song.

    Oh Happy Day – Wikipedia

    The song was #1 in Germany which would not had happened without radio stations.
     
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  10. AppleBonker

    AppleBonker Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Seattle
    The Music Scene TV show included this rip roaring version of CSNY doing Down by the River. Introduced by David Steinberg.

     
  11. Mylene

    Mylene Forum Resident

    Jesus records that were big in Australia

    Jesus Was a Soul Man
    Jesus is Just Alright
    Superstar
    Put Your Hand in the Hand
    My Sweet Lord

    Aussie Jesus records

    Show Me the Way ~ Brian Cadd and Don Moodie
    The Prophet ~ Ronnie Burns

    Aussie hare krishna records

    Krishna Came ~ Tully
    Trust Me ~ Spectrum
    Krishna Loves You Too~ Matt Taylor
    Harry v Dirchy ~ Ariel
     
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  12. John54

    John54 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto
    I remember Oh Happy Day from the '60s so it got airplay up here.

    I've learned who Brian Cadd, is he was behind this piece of brilliance from 1967, Woman You're Breaking Me by the Groop, that should have done a lot better up here:

     
  13. Mylene

    Mylene Forum Resident



    He was also in Axiom who were supposed be Australia's answer to The Band. This song throws in everything from Honky Tonk Women to highly orchestrated pop

    He later became musical director for 'The French Elvis' Johnny Hallyday
     
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  14. John54

    John54 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto
    That's pretty good! I've never heard it before; I'll give it a preliminary B rating but it could be a grower.
     
  15. Mylene

    Mylene Forum Resident

    He wrote the B side of a #1 single by The Pointer Sisters which has probably sustained for the last couple of decades ;)



    B side of Fire
     
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  16. alphanguy

    alphanguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Missouri
    Great clip!! This also reminds me how utterly sad it was that Australia didn't get color television broadcasts until 1975!
     
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  17. alphanguy

    alphanguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Missouri
    It certainly was, Motown went so far as to release and entire album of gospel , "Keys To The Kingdom" that had contributions from most every artist on the roster at the time.

     
  18. alphanguy

    alphanguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Missouri
    Next up, we have "I Can't Get Next To You" by the Temptations, #1 from October 18 - October 31, 1969.

     
  19. alphanguy

    alphanguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Missouri
    Here it is performed live on the Ed Sullivan show, September 28, 1969. (Date on video is obviously wrong)

     
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  20. Black Thumb

    Black Thumb Forum Resident

    Location:
    Reno, NV
    Love the Temps, but my go-to version of "Can't Get Next To You" is Al Green's. A more relaxed tempo seems to suit the song better.
     
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  21. zebop

    zebop Well Known Stranger

    Great. The change in style the Temptations did was still paying off. If they missed David Ruffin, they at least got a chance to hear all of the guys getting lines. This is probably one of the least dated of the 68-71 Whitfield psychedelic singles.
     
  22. snepts

    snepts Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Eugene, OR
    I know the song "Oh Happy Day" but I don't know why. I sorta remember the Edwin Hawkins Singers.
    It's a good memory, although I'm not a gospel fan.
     
  23. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

    Location:
    San Francisco
    The Temps were huge in my house, and this has always been a favorite.

    Love the Ed Sullivan clip, in part because it looks (to me) like the band were growing sick of the by then cheezy '60s Motown "choreography".
     
  24. Tim S

    Tim S Forum Resident

    Location:
    East Tennessee
    "I can't get next to you" is pretty good. It's kind of a bare bones song made more interesting by the switching around of each singer's parts and those cool chords that begin the chorus. Coming out of the second chorus, it kinda loses momentum and meanders a bit, that section could've easily been edited out. That's pretty much what happens on the live clip, which is ok, but the tempo is a bit too fast.

    Anyone know what this beat out for #1? I like it, but it doesn't sound like a chart topper, unless the competition was a little weak at this time.
     
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  25. Tim S

    Tim S Forum Resident

    Location:
    East Tennessee
    The WAY-toned down choreography is obvious - and welcome. It's fun to see each guy do his thing solo, too.
     

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