Fleetwood Mac Rumours First Pressing ?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by rockitman, May 19, 2011.

  1. 14 Cheerleader Coldfront

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  2. 14 Cheerleader Coldfront

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    On the Rumours topic, I recently picked up a textured cover cursive Terra Haute Ken Perry US pressing with F3/F5 stampers. Palm tree labels. It really blew me away.
     
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  3. Blank Slate

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    Picked up another copy of Rumours. I went through every US version on Discogs trying to match mine. It is on the Palms label. Mastered by Capital, KP.
    Side 1 matrix is BSK-1-3010 JW1 F4 then a triangle followed by 21970
    Side 2 matrix is SUB BSK-2-3010 P1 F2 then a triangle followed by 21970x
    Both sides also have very faint cursive that I can't read easily. It is possibly Jacksonville which I would assume is the Jacksonville plant? I have just not seen it identified that way before.
    My questions are what does "SUB" indicate? Do the triangles relate to the metal work? Has anyone seen "Jacksonville" in cursive like that? What else might the cursive be?
    Thanks for any help!
     
  4. marcb

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    You can only make a finite number of records from a lacquer. This LP was highly anticipated and sold in the millions in the US alone, so a number of lacquers were likely cut by Ken Perry (using the same mastering moves) before initial release to meet demand. All of these could technically be called the first press.
     
  5. 14 Cheerleader Coldfront

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    The cursive script on mine is "Terra Haute". Not sure if that is where yours was pressed.
     
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  6. Blank Slate

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    Thanks for the reply!
    With help from forum member W.B. I have determined it is a Jacksonville pressing so I feel safe to assume the cursive I can't quite make out is "Jacksonville."
    Still not sure what other information is hidden in the matrix etchings!
     
  7. fluffskul

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    I'd normally shrug posts like this off... .but I did this exact experiment tonight BY ACCIDENT! Finally decided to clean and play all the different copies of Rumours I own tonight...

    Besides stating the obvious, that is is one of only a handful of albums in Rock N Roll you can listen to 4 times in a row and still love it... this post is so true.

    I just listened to 2 side A "F39" stamps with identical deadwax. One has a thumping, hit you in the chest bass, and the other one is pedestrian. No small difference, even on my entry-level system.
     
  8. Blank Slate

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    Back with another question because I listened to this again today and it sounds great.
    I believe it was pressed at Jacksonville. Would the delta number indicate the metal parts came from Alco Research & Engineering which used delta numbers like this? The other versions I own do not have this delta number.
     
  9. john lennonist

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    My (early?) Santa Maria copy (F7 / F5):

    A: (handwritten, very small) BSK-1-3010 SM2 F7 Santa Maria
    (machine stamped) MASTERED BY CAPITOL

    B: (handwritten, very small) BSK-2-3010 WW1 F5 Santa Maria
    (machine stamped) MASTERED BY CAPITOL

    Yes there actually are the words Santa Maria handwritten in the deadwax.

    I have at least 100 LPs pressed by Columbia Santa Maria and this is the only one on which I've seen those words written in the dead wax!

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