"Francis Albert Sinatra & Antônio Carlos Jobim" Reprise LP FS-1021 studio take numbers, etc.

Isn't that the one that Dean used that you always coo about? If so, it was really perfect for his voice.

 

My point being, after hearing all this stuff, Frank Sinatra was in charge. He would stop takes, direct tempo and do other things that a producer would normally do. He made suggestions for every song and what he said, went. Frank was totally on top of it and in full charge.

Sounds to me just like every other Frank Sinatra recording session.

I always remember a quote from "The Wrecking Crew" re: musicians who played on both Sinatra and Streisand dates...

"Barbra took charge. Frank was IN charge! That's a big difference."

 

Steve, I heard (and purchased) those session tapes as far back as 1979 from an FS bootlegger. Some (like Ring a Ding Ding! and Sinatra & Strings) are the best sounding sources of the albums I have ever heard!

You & I have discussed this before in previous threads.

 

Paul, the "Sinatra & Strings" outtakes somewhat fixes that horrible buzz at the end of "Night & Day", among other oddities. The first time I heard the "Ring a Ding Ding!" outtakes and the song "You & The Night & The Music", it knocked me out, as if I was hearing it for the first time. That band on that track really cooks!

 

That would mean that Kevin used the original mixes, which I would expect from him. I've got to re-listen to it soon!

 

Can these outtakes be found??

 

Not sure if this makes it any less confusing .......

https://www.discogs.com/Francis-Alb...ert-Sinatra-Antonio-Carlos-Jobim/master/96346

 

yes I didn't keep the Jobim ones, they bored me. But some of them (like the I Remember tommy stuff and the Nelson Strangers stuff) is just too cool

 

Are these CDs or vinyl?

 

cds. some of the stuff is lossy, but it all sounds crystal clear

 

Western Studio 1, Steve. By then, Frank really didn't record in United anymore. Off-hand I think he did one session for the MY WAY album in United, but otherwise should have done everything in Western in the later '60's.

 

Interestingly, Matt's clips demonstrate to my ears that the Concord CD is trying to be mono! Of the five clips which precede it, the mono LP version sounds the closest to the latest Concord stereo CD. It's also harder and more compressed (like the mono appears to sound in that clip). I wonder if that was the intention when they prepared the most recent remix? It also appears that a remix has existed since the 1991 CD where you can clearly hear the start of the gradual narrowing of the stereo image to reduce the severe left/right panning of the original 1967 mix.

I want them all!

 

The Kevin Gray sounds really great.

It's too bad more info is not forthcoming on sources,mix etc. on these new FS releases. Although this is actually fairly common - most labels are silent on these things.

 

and I hope vinyl is not the sole source for the 67 mix as some here (moi) don't do vinyl anymore.

 

Interesting. So the four-track was used to mix the mono feed but it'd also record onto the four tracks? Are we talking two tape machines running here?