I need good LP Outer sleeves

Louis, so you tried the Elusive Disc japanese 12's ? I was thinking in try becuase like I said its seems to be the "originals" japaneses, the Music Direct are clones and dont fit at all... the glue dont match, so bad...

like Vinyl Fan 1973 says I like too the flap, I dont like keep the record open for get dust etc.. the big problem with the flapped glue in general, is that some glue ones like BLACKES over the time stick too! in the flap and is so hard and anonnying open and close and can cause damage becuase part of the glue start hold in the flap, so like I say the music direct's you can open and close the times that you want and the glue dont keep! thats for the material of the sleeve that are diffent to the blackes...

of course one perfect solution it was flapped sleeves without GLUE but how? a ziplock bag haha or the Simply Vinyl expensive ones... but that have pvc so are bad.

so Elusives are not good? very cloudy? what about that thing of the glue holds in the flap?

thanks

 

I am going through my entire collection at the moment on another matter (replacing all these poly lined inners that have left filmy streaks and marks on some of my most prized vinyl), and I can say with complete certainty that these 12" Japanese outers from Elusive Disc are clouding up over time. I am fanatical about climate and light control so I know it is not an environmental issue; it is some chemical change in the very material used to produce the outer. However, to answer your question about the glue: I haven't had any major problems with the flap adhesive. Perhaps a few out of hundreds (in the past five or six years) have been defective in that regard.

In conclusion: Japanese 12" outers from Elusive Disc — avoid. (And while we're at it: poly lined 12" inners from Bags Unlimited — avoid.)

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Have you tried the Blake sleeves from Clear Bags?

 

Which ones fit over the thick Music Matter Jazz covers? Those are so thick! haha

 

Not yet. I'll see if they will send me a sample.

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Great, when you do receive the sample. I'd be interested in your thoughts....thanks.

 

thank I avoid the elusive disc!

about Blakes, Im sure when you see it maybe you say "wow great! so shiny, so pretty" but again believe if you hate marks you get a lot marks after time, I dont push my records (you know me Louis, Im a mint! bitch! lol so my care is extreme) and even keep that separate I see an obvious ringwear in the inner, and like I explain previous blakes are a very crakeable material, the material of blake's is Biaxially Oriented Polypropylene (BOPP); and more than that the big problem to me is that heavy glue... in the past I love them but after time results I dont recomment but tried, I want know your point of view

 

In my experience all outer sleeves get somewhat cloudy or marked up. Even the well regarded Ultimate Sleeve City 5.0 sleeves I have have some sort of marks on them. That really doesn't bother me. I have the Clear Bags on all my LP's and I've never had an issue with a seam split, material that gets cracked, or creased, and the strip on the back still works. My only issue is that they don't fit the double LP's too good as they are a snug fit, which I really like. So I ordered the new double LP version and hopefully that will work well. I don't see any issue with the super clear BOPP material, if you don't abuse the sleeves then they should work for a lifetime.

 

Thanks, Esteban. I'll take your word for it.

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I try later to take pictures for show my point of view, is nice to compare see that you use and you dont see the issues that I found, I show you later

 

That would be great, I'd love to see as well. Who knows I may be in for the same thing down the line. If so I'd like to avoid them and get something even better. Thanks.

 

Louis, Vinyl Fan, anyone try the the simply vinyl? for me the idea of no glue and flap sounds perfect! but well I see a little cloudy (no problem for me) but the problem (I think) is are pvc and maybe that damage the art, and also are so expensive (£22.99 per 10).
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I dunno if people are just too cheap or if it's something else, but sometimes I think I'm the only person who buys this stuff from Soundsource. They've never sold me anything that went bad over time:

http://store.soundsourcecds.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_68&products_id=184

 

that looks the same than elusive disc or the "clones" of music direct, are the same japanese's discuss here..., I think.

 

Couldn't tell you, since I've never ordered accessories from ED. But I've had stuff from Soundsource for over 10 years, and there is no fading.

 

I was just looking at this site last night, and I don't know, was nervous to take a chance. With your good word I shall try them next time I need sleeves to compare with clear bags. Thanks for the tip.

 

So I've been using the Bags Unlimited 5.0 Mylar outer sleeves recently. I got several bags of them. They have this kind of cloudy film in them that I have been wiping away with cloth, after which they are pretty clear (but not nearly as clear as the 2.5 bags). Should I be worried about this stuff getting on my albums? So far I haven't noticed anything bad with the albums, and the thickness of the material I think really protects against ringwear, etc. Anybody else noticed something like this on these bags?

 

So far the only ones I have tried and am currently using is the Bags Unl. 3 mil. They're cheap enough for me since I sleeve all my records and are strong enough to handle the abuse I put my records through. They are a bit cloudy but that doesn't bother me. All I know is that the clear bags they made for comic books tend to turn yellow after awhile, don't know if the record sleeves are the same so I'm staying away from those.

 

Last night I cleaned another batch of records in my Spin Clean and I decided to change the way I put the LP back in the resealable sleeve. I always put the opening at the top of the LP, and based on some of comments made in this thread, I decided to make the opening at the side of the LP where the record comes out. Wow, what a difference and I can't believe I didn't think about it before. It's so much easier to just have to open the flap and take out the LP without ever having to touch the actual cover. It also looks way nicer on the shelf when the LP's are side by side. The spin is now clear and can be read easily. It's not much cleaner, so thank you for a great suggestion.

 

No problem or complaints here about the Japanese resealable's I've bought from Elusive. I swear by them.

 

I usually buy mine from roylmail at ebay, good quality and quick service.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-LP-12-vinyl-record-sleeves-100-micron-polypropylene-/310659270078

 

I was thinking about purchasing either the 2.5 or 5.00 from acoustic sounds as brought up by the OP. Is the 2.5 thick enough? It's hard to tell without feeling them. Thanks!

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/69477/-Outer_LP_Sleeves_Non-Resealable_25_mil-Record_Supplies

 

These are my favs, I use them on 75% of my albums. For my more valuable (to me) LPs, I use their 5 mil Ultimate Outers - great stuff. In both cases, they stay very clear over time.

 

Thanks. These seem similar to the ones offered by Acoustic Sounds. The 5 seems nice, but are like double the price! Again, the question is, is it necessary?

 

Well maybe it's more piece of mind than anything else. Like I said, I use the thick ones just for albums that are top notch (cost/condition). There's another reason, though. I've told my family that if anything ever happens to me, make sure you sell the LPs with the thick sleeves to someone you trust! The ones with the thin sleeves, get whatever you can. But the thick ones, those are the valuable ones!