Just got a preamp PrimaLuna ProLogue 3. I have some questions please

Hi guys,

I just got a PrimaLuna ProLogue 3 preamp, and this is how I have my setup so far:

Turntable to "Aux 2" (phonoboard is installed on it) on the PrimaLuna. From the PrimaLuna "Tape Out" to my RR2150 Outlaw receiver "Tape in".

I assume I am using the phono stage of the PrimaLuna since the phono stage on the receiver is unplugged. However, I thought I was going to be able to use the volume knob from the PrimaLuna, but the receiver is still the one I have to use.

Is this the recommended setup, and I am getting the best possible sound this way?

Thanks in advance.

 

Oh hey Steve!

Right. I have not been able to tell a big difference in sound, so I knew something was wrong. So what should I change with the setup to optimize the sound? I don't hear the tubes yet.

 

I do have a phono section on my receiver. It is a RR2150 Outlaw integrated. So the PL and the RR both have phono sections. How do I set it up to get the tubes? I figured I was bypassing it.

 

I wanted to get the tubes sound. Several friends have integrated receivers with this preamp for the tubes. I don't really care where the volume is controlled, but I want the tubes.

 

I have Phono, Video, CD, Tape In, Tape Out, External Processor In, External Processor Out on my integrated receiver. A friend just advised me to use one of the preamp outputs to avoid the fixed volume issue with Tape Out. Where do I plug it on the receiver? There is a Pre Out and Main In with jumpers on it as well.

 

So, I removed the jumpers and plugged the preamp output to Main In. Now the volume from the RR2150 is disabled and I am using the one from the PL. Is this the correct setup not to bypass the tubes?

 

Yes, now you're using the Outlaw as the amplifier, and you're now using the PrimaLuna as it's intended.

 

Oh okay, thanks. What is annoying is that everything is disabled. Even the bass and treble features.

 

On tour PrimaLuna? They shouldn't be disabled if you're just using the power section of the Outlaw.

 

I don' get what I am doing wrong then. Output Amp to Main In is what I have it on right now.

 

The tone controls on the outlaw are bypassed when you use the main in along with all preamp sections with in.

 

Oh, I read this again. The Outlaw is disabled. The PL isn't. I think you misunderstood thinking it was the other way around.

 

And that's what I want it to do correct?

 

Yes. That is how the PL3 should be used.

 

^^^^This^^^^^

 

Then what's annoying about everything being disabled on your Outlaw? You have all of the controls on your pre-amp.

 

There are no tone controls on the PL is my guess what his gripe is.

 

That's right. No controls like balance, bass, treble... blah blah.

 

You won't be able to utilize any tone controls when you have the Primaluna as your preamp going into the Outlaw.

Having at one time owned both an RR2150 and a Primaluna Prologue 3, IMO the latter is a significant step up the audio ladder (not that the Outlaw is a slouch, it's a very nice entry into the world of better sound).

Live with the PL going into the Outlaw for a while. Get used to its sound. Then disconnect the PL entirely and listen to the Outlaw. Do you prefer one over the other?
Keep the one you like better. If it's the PL, get a tubed amp to go with it if you want. If you have the space, and the funds, keep both the Outlaw for a 2nd system and the PL plus an amp for your main system. But listen carefully first and see what you prefer.

 

You need a tube amp if you want the tube sound. I had the PrimaLuna PL3 and hot-rodded Dynaco Mark III monoblocks and it was pretty killer. The Outlaw is a great piece but you would lose all those inputs if you ditch it.

 

Thanks for the feedback. Which tube amp would you recommend?