Looking for RCA Interconnect Upgrade

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by avanti1960, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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    Please see what I've highlighted. This is not an insignificant statement. You know, and I'm sure have experienced, the audio thing called synergy. Why do some speakers sound better with some amps? Why do people hear differences between CD players? Why do certain phono cartridges sound better with certain preamps and speakers? I'm not arguing that we aren't playing with the sound by changing cables..............that's the idea. In this way, IMHO, we can tailor the sound to improve the overall system sound.
     
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  2. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Forum Resident

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    "we can tailor the sound to improve the overall system sound"

    If that statement is true it is in essence saying there is something wrong with one or more components within said system and that one is thus using the interconnects to correct that flaw(s), instead of buying the proper components in the first place which do not require the use of "special" interconnects to fix flaws.
     
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  3. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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    It's not that black and white my friend. Do you believe in room treatments?
     
  4. GuildX700

    GuildX700 Forum Resident

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    A room and placement of speakers and such is something one must more often than not accept as not being designed properly for sound and one then has to deal with that problem, unless one has designed and built a system and room to mate together properly.

    Proper selection of components which do not require sonic altering by means of cables seems to be the right way to put a sound system together.
     
  5. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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    So how does one design a system, made up of different components and likely different manufacturers with different ideas of design and how their components should sound, so that they mate properly? The first time? Without ever needing to make any changes? If you can tell me unequivocally how do to that, you could save me a lot of time and money, and it would make my wife happy as well. :agree:
     
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  6. missan

    missan Forum Resident

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    There is no such thing as synergy in audio, it can only be a compensation for flaws.
     
  7. mreeter

    mreeter Active Member

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    The only piece of measuring equipment I have on hand is my brain, accompanied by my ears.
     
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  8. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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    So if we take a given power amp, that we could agree is of a capable design, functioning per manufacturer's spec, and is well made, and pair it with 4 different sets of speakers. They would all sound the same? One pair of speakers can't possible sound better than the others due to a synergy of some sort?
     
  9. Whether or not someone buys into a cable strategy is not my concern, so I just refrain from debating the topic. I'm good with anyone believing in what they do about this part of our hobby. There really isn't a right or wrong answer/approach anyway, but I do think that everyone should try it and not automatically dismiss it. I just wanted to say that.

    Personally I believe that cables can and do make a difference and I have several decades of trying different cables to support that view (to my ears). I have never tried any of the really high-end (read expensive) cable offerings, so I have no idea of they are better or not. Since I'll never play in that sandbox it matters little to me, but I'm happy for those who can and feel they offer an upgrade.

    In my backyard I've yet to see a money tree, so I look for brands that I feel offer good value. One of those brands I only recently discovered was Morrow Audio. I purchased a pair of PH5 phono cables and I've been a happy camper. Very neutral sounding with no bass muddiness or noticeable roll-off in the upper registers.

    Happy cabling! :)
     
  10. missan

    missan Forum Resident

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    Why on earth would the speakers sound the same? If so then they must be exactly the same.
     
  11. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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    So there is a high likelihood that one pair will sound better with said amplifier, right?
     
  12. missan

    missan Forum Resident

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    You lost me. If the speakers are not the same the probability they will not sound the same is huge. Never mind the amp.
     
  13. I see we're starting to veer off into other territory...typical of cable threads.
     
  14. missan

    missan Forum Resident

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    Yes if someone starts to speak about synergy regarding cables, all is lost.
     
  15. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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  16. Mitsuman

    Mitsuman Forum Resident

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    So a given set of speakers will always sound the same, no matter what amplification is used? Never mind the four different speakers.
     
  17. missan

    missan Forum Resident

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    I haven´t experienced that. Most likely will the amps have enough different design to sound different.
     
  18. thegage

    thegage Forum Currency Nerd

    This. No reason to spend more. Even the ZX+ level is great for decent savings.

    John K.
     
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  19. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    please refrain from the debate aspects of interconnect value. I welcome and appreciate suggestions from anyone who has direct hands on experience witnessing an upgrade from the cables listed to another within budget and how the sound improved.
    the balance of my system from hardware, speaker positioning, acoustic treatments, etc. is optomized and the differences among cables is readily apparent. I am not looking for tone control but rather an improvement in quality including transparency and dynamics. the cables mentioned (as well as others not listed) have shown subtle but distinct differences in these qualities and I am looking to improve if possible. thank you.
     
  20. wwaldmanfan

    wwaldmanfan Forum Resident

    Your request is reasonable, but, at your level, I don't know why you would value outlandish opinions of anonymous strangers on the internet.
    You should consult with The Cable Co., in New Hope, PA. They have a cable lending program where you can compare high end cables in your own home.

    Audio Cables, Stereo Cable, Speaker Cable, Roomtune, Acoustic Zen, Tara Labs Sales
     
  21. timztunz

    timztunz "A Dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

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    That's actually very good advice.
     
  22. jmczaja

    jmczaja Well-Known Member

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    i repeat myself under stress...i repeat myself under stress...i repeat myself under stress...i repeat myself under stress...the more i look at it, the more i like it..
     
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  23. Ron Scubadiver

    Ron Scubadiver Active Member

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    It might save him $500. Besides your bickering doesn't help anything either.
     
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  24. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    To the nay-Sayers. If you're not helping you're essentially, perhaps not purposefully, trolling. Please stop.
     
  25. dolsey01

    dolsey01 Active Member

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    The TEO Audio Liquid Metal "Game Changer" interconnects seem to be he FOTM. There's a thread on AudioCircle and also on Audiogon. They do offer a 21day money back guarantee. I hope these don't open a bigger can of worms here. I'm on the fence on trying them. I currently have both Audio Art and Audio Sensibility cables that I'm happy with.
     

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