Matt Monro - The George Martin Years CD (& appreciation thread) *

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  1. Norman Day

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    Of course such a list would be great, Richard!

    ...btw would the remaster of Love is The Same Anywhere you mention be the same as the one released on 9th March 2015 on the Hallmark Label which I actually bought?! Judging by the download on qobuz which I listened to, both appear to be in Mono!
     
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  2. RMoore

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    The Hallmark - as are a lot of the PD re-issues of Matt's Material - is just taken from whatever they can find! Usually (in Hallmarks case) fairly battered vinyl! Although i've never bothered to find out what it's really like.

    The 1997 digipack re-issue (I don't know if it's available anywhere as a download i'm afraid) is from the Stereo Master and sounds great. Remastered by Peter Mew (Yes he did do good work - I did several projects with his involvement and was never disappointed. He did what re-issue producers wanted) The Stereo masters as far as I can ascertain are cut directly from the session reels (apart from April Fool which is a "stereoized" copy of the mono - see earlier post). As far as i'm aware no other re-issue comes close - and nobody seems to have copied it despite it being PD in Europe!

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    There are some second hand copies on Amazon.co.uk at the moment.
     
  3. RMoore

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    Notes were never written for Rare Monro - This was the first set I did any work for, and then only 11 tracks, so the research wasn't done in regards to recording dates. However for Rarities it was. Remember this leaves out all of the Capitol owned tracks.

    Here you go.


    Disc 1



    1. I Hear Music (Frank Loesser/Burton Lane)

    Famous Music Corporation

    Recorded at Biggars Recording Studio, Glasgow

    2nd February 1956



    2. Strange Lady In Town (Dmitri Tiomkin/Ned Washington)

    Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    Arranged and Conduced By Harry Leader

    Produced By Manuel Kopelman

    Recorded at IBC Studios, London,

    10th August 1955

    First issued on ‘Hillbilly Favourites’ Top Hits - EMO9


    3. I Suddenly (Dominic John/Bob Halfin/Harold Cornelius)

    Copyright Control

    Recorded Circa 1957/8


    4. It's Only A Paper Moon (Harold Arlen/E Y Harburg/Billy Rose) Chappell & Co

    5. Everything I Have Is Yours (Harold Adamson/Burton Lane) EMI United Partnership Ltd

    6. You're Getting To Be A Habit With Me (Al Dubin/Harry Warren) B.Feldman & Co Ltd

    7. My Funny Valentine (Lorenz Hart/Richard Rodgers) Warner/Chappell North America Ltd/Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    8. I've Got The World On A String (Harold Arlen/Ted Koehler) Peter Maurice Music Co. Ltd

    9. Birth Of The Blues (Lew Brown/Ray Henderson/B.G. De Sylva)Warner Brothers inc/Ray Henderson Music/Stephen Ballentine Publishing/Chappell

    10. Amor Amor Amor (Ricardo Lopez Mendez/Gabriel Ruiz Galindo/Sunny Skylar)Chappell

    11. The Nearness Of You (Hoagy Carmichael/Ned Washington) Victoria

    12. You're Sensational (Cole Porter) Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    13. Did You Ever See A Dream Walking (Mack Gordon/Harry Revel) Bradbury Wood

    14. I'll Be Around (Alec Wilder) Boosey & Hawkes Ltd

    15. I’ve Got My Eyes On You (Cole Porter) Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    16. Chattanooga Choo Choo (Mack Gordon/ Harry Warren) EMI Music Publishing Ltd/Robbins Music Corp

    4 -16 Arranged and Conduced By Malcolm Lockyer

    Produced By Colin Campbell - assisted Rita Whitehead and Gerald D’Almada

    Recorded at IBC Studios, London

    16th May 1957 © Mood Media


    17. In Time (Lionel Newman/Johnny Lehmann) Copyright Control

    18. What Makes The Sunset (Jule Styne / Sammy Cahn)EMI United Partnership Ltd

    19. The Clouds Will Soon Roll By (William J Hill/Harry M Woods) Lawrence Wright Music Co Ltd

    17 – 19 Accompanied by Steve Race Quintet

    Produced By John Kingdon

    Recorded at Aeolian Hall, London

    23th May 1958. From “Music About Town”


    20. Old Devil Moon (E Y Harburg/Burton Lane) Chappell Music Ltd

    21. It Can’t Be Wrong (Kim Gannon/Max Steiner) Chappell Music Ltd

    20 - 21 Arranged and conducted by Harry Rabinowitz with The BBC Revue Orchestra

    Produced By Johnnie Stewart

    Recorded at Aeolian Hall, London

    24th September 1958 © BBC


    22. I’ve Got You Under My Skin (Cole Porter) Warner/Chappell North America Ltd

    Arranged and conducted by Paul Fenouhlet with The BBC Variety Orchestra

    Produced By Johnnie Stewart

    Recorded at Aeolian Hall, London

    25th September 1958 © BBC


    23. You Make Me Feel So Young (Mack Gordon/Josef Joe Myrow) Warner Bros Music Corp (ASCAP)

    Accompanied by Bill McGuffie Trio

    Produced By Jimmy Grant

    Recorded 16th December 1958. Broadcast 20th December 1958

    From “Saturday Club”


    24. The Heart Of A Man (Paddy Roberts/Peggy Cochrane) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Malcolm Lockyer

    25. I Know (Edith Lindeman/Carl Stutz) Copyright Control

    26. Twixt Twelve and Twenty (Fredda Gold/Aaron H Schroeder) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Dennis Wilson

    24 – 26 Recorded July 1959

    Top Pop Club International No16 - Society TPC16


    27. These Things Happen (Clint Ballard Jnr/Fred Tobias) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Ron Goodwin

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    20th January 1960



    28. Fare The Well My Pretty Maid (Les Vandyke) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Tommy Watt

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    2nd March 1960


    29. During One Night (Bill McGuffie) Copyright Control

    30. Easier Said Than Done (Unknown) Copyright Control

    31. Everything is Nothing Without You (Burt Bachrach/Hal David) Copyright Control

    32. No One Will Ever Know (1st Version) (Jerry Lordan/George Martin) Copyright Control

    33. There Are No Words For Love (1st Version) (Leslie Bricusse) Westminster Music Ltd

    34. The Wrong Time (It’s Alright With Me) (Cole Porter) Copyright Control

    29 – 34 Arranged by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    11th May 1961



    Disc 2



    1. Floral Dance (Traditional/Katie Moss) Chappell Music Ltd

    2. Sitting On Top Of The World (Ray Henderson/Samuel Lewis/Joseph Young) Warner Brothers Music

    1 & 2 Recorded at Associated-Rediffusion Studios, Wembley

    29th May 1961



    3. Mirage (Alan Clare) Selma Music Corp

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    6th June 1961



    4. Love Is The Same Anywhere (Alt Version) (Donald Phillips) EMI Music Publishing Ltd

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    21st August 1961


    5. Is There Anything I Can Do? (Stanley Daniels) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    27th December 1961



    6. When Love Comes Along (Alternate Take) (Galt MacDermot/J. Alexander Ryan) Robbins Music Corp Ltd

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    2nd May 1962



    7. By The Way (John Junkin/Anthony Lilly) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    24th June 1962


    8. (Won’t You Come Home) Bill Bailey (Hughie Cannon) Public Domain

    Produced by Bobby Jaye

    Recorded 15th December 1962

    Broadcast: 4th January 63

    From “Winifred Atwell’s Piano Party” © BBC


    9. A Few Tender Words (Mack David/Lyn Murray) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    1st November 1962


    10. I’ve Got Love (John Junkin/Dennis King) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    18th & 22nd January 1963



    11. Once In Every Long And Lonely While (Early Version) (George Martin/Hal Shaper) Sparta-Florida Music Group Ltd

    12. Walk Into The Dawn (Lionel Bart) Copyright Control

    11 & 12 Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    2nd April 1963


    13. I Love You Too (Alternate Take) (Jimmy Jaques/Pat Ryan) Universal/Dick James Music Ltd

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    28th April 1964


    14. All My Loving (Early Version) (John Lennon/Paul McCartney) Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    3rd November 1964


    15. Ten Out Of Ten (Unedited) (Leslie Bricusse) Wildwood Music Ltd

    Arranged and conducted by Johnny Scott

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    19th January 1964


    16. Choose (Unedited) (Lionel Bart)Lionel Bart

    Arranged and conducted by Johnny Pearson

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    19th January 1964


    17. Beautiful Beautiful (Unedited) (Hal Shaper) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Les Reed

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    19th January 1964


    18. Let’s Find An Island (Herbert Kretzmer/David Lee) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By George Martin

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    8th January 1965


    19. Strike Up The Band (George and Ira Gershwin)Warner/Chappell Music Ltd

    Arranged and conducted by Nelson Riddle

    Produced by Yvonne Littlewood

    Recorded at BBC Television Centre, London

    14th July 1967

    Broadcast 5th August 1967



    20. Let Me Choose Life (Mort Garson/Alex Hassilev) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Kenny Clayton

    Produced By John Burgess

    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios, London

    23rd April 1970



    21. Time To Go (Unknown) Copyright Control

    22. Oh My Child (David Matthews/Michael Julien) Copyright Control

    23. Only Friends (Danny Janssen/Ron Gross) Copyright Control

    24. Love Story (Carl Sigman/Francis Lai) Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC

    Arranged and conducted by Mike Vickers (Except 24. George Martin)

    Produced By George Martin

    Air Studios, London

    5th April 1971


    25. Didn’t We (Early Version) (Jimmy Webb) Jobete Music (UK) Ltd

    26. How Can I Live Without Your Love (Buddy Greco/Englebert Humperdink)

    Produced By George Martin

    Air Studios, London

    21st July 1972


    27. It’s That Time Again (Unknown) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Colin Keyes

    Produced By John Burgess

    Air Studios, London

    2nd January 1973



    28. I’ve So Much To Be Thankful For (Johnny Douglas/Richard Mullan) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Chris Gunning

    Produced By Peter Sullivan

    Abbey Road Studios, London

    3rd August 1973



    Disc 3


    1. How Could I Ever Leave You (Roger Greenaway/John Scott) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Zack Lawrence

    Produced By John Burgess

    Air Studios, London

    9th March 1974



    2. So Little Time (Giancarlo Chiaramello/Owens)

    Arranged and conducted by Peter Knight

    Produced By John Burgess

    Air Studios, London

    Backing Recorded 1st November 1974

    Vocal Recorded 20th & 29th November 1974



    3. One Last Try (Unknown) Copyright Control

    Arranged and conducted by Lew Warburton

    Produced By John Burgess

    Air Studios, London

    Backing Recorded 23rd January 1976

    Vocal Recorded 1st March 1976


    4. For The Touch Of Your Love (Don Black/David Hentschel/Traditional) Copyright Control

    Produced By John Burgess

    Air Studios, London

    28th July and 22nd September 1977



    5. Alone Am I (Roy Budd) Copyright Control

    Produced, Arranged and Conducted by Roy Budd

    Recorded at Cine-Tele Sound (CTS), London

    12th & 13th January 1978


    6. You Came Along (From Out Of Nowhere) (Edward Heyman/John Green) Famous Music Publishing Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 8th August 1961

    7. I Apologise (Al Goodhart/Al Hoffman/Ed Nelson) Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 4th July 1961

    8. The Folks Who Live On The Hill (Oscar Hammerstein II/Jerome Kern)Universal Music Publishing Ltd

    Recorded 28th June 1961, Broadcast 25th July 1961

    9. Your Driving Me Crazy/The Song Is You (Walter Donaldson) Copyright Control / (Oscar Hammerstein II/Jerome Kern)Universal Music Publishing Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 15th August 1961

    10. You’ll Never Know (Mack Gordon/Harry Warren) Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 18th July1961

    11. What Is This Thing Called Love (Cole Porter) Warner Bros Music

    Recorded and Broadcast 15th August 1961

    12. Day By Day (Sammy Cahn/Axel Stordahl/Paul Weston) Copyright Control

    Recorded 28th July 1961, Broadcast 1st August 1961

    13. Younger Than Springtime (Oscar Hammerstein II/Richard Rodgers) EMI Music Publishing

    Recorded and Broadcast 8th August 1961

    14. Taking A Chance On Love (Vernon Duke/Ted Fetter/John Latouche) EMI United Partnership Ltd

    Recorded 28th June 1961, Broadcast 25th July 1961

    15. All Of You (Cole Porter)Warner/Chappell Music Ltd

    Recorded 28th July 1961, Broadcast 1st August 1961

    16. Blue Moon (Richard Rogers/Lorenz Hart) EMI United Partnership Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 8th August 1961

    17. Makin Whoopee (Gus Khan/Walter Donaldson) Donaldson Publishing Co./Gilbert Keys Music Co./Larry Spier Inc./Tobago Music Company

    Recorded 28th July 1961, Broadcast 1st August 1961

    18. Row Row Row (James Monaco/William Jerome) Francis Day and Hunter Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 18th July1961

    19. Day In Day Out (Rube Bloom/Johnny Mercer) Francis Day and Hunter Ltd

    Recorded 28th July 1961, Broadcast 1st August 1961

    20. Till (Pierre Buisson/Charles Danvers/Carl Sigman) Warner/Chappell Music Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 18th July1961

    21. In The Still Of The Night (Cole Porter) Warner Chappell Music Ltd

    Recorded 28th July 1961, Broadcast 1st August 1961

    22. Breezing Along With The Breeze (Haven Gillespie/ Seymour Simons/Richard Whiting)Warner Bros Music

    Recorded and Broadcast 18th July1961

    23. Lulu’s Back In Town (Al Dubin/Harry Warren) B Feldman & Co. Ltd/EMI

    Recorded and Broadcast 18th July1961

    24. Lazy River (Hoagy Carmichael/Sidney Arodin) Peermusic (UK) Ltd

    Recorded and Broadcast 18th July1961

    6 – 24 Arranged and Conducted by Johnnie Spence

    Produced By John Browell

    From”Matt’s Kind Of Music”


    25. Birth Of The Blues (Lew Brown/Ray Henderson/Buddy De Sylva)

    26. New York New York (John Kander/Fred Ebb)

    Live Recordings

    Details Unknown


    Bonus Tracks


    27. Bound For Texas (Charles Chaplin) Bourne Music Ltd

    Arranged by Eric James & Orchestra Conducted by Eric Spear

    Recorded at Shepperton Studios, Surrey

    25th February 1959

    From "The Chaplin Revue" Soundtrack


    28. Newport Cigarettes (Unknown) Copyright Control

    Recorded 12th June 1967


    29. Teem (Unknown) Copyright Control

    Recorded 31st August 1961


    30. Babycham (John & Joan Shakespeare) Copyright Control

    Arranged, conducted and produced by John Shakespeare

    Recorded at Cine-Tele Sound (CTS), London

    6th April 1961


    31. Macleans Toothpaste (John & Joan Shakespeare) Copyright Control

    Arranged, conducted and produced by John Shakespeare

    Recorded 27th March 1962


    32. Mackintosh’s Weekend (John & Joan Shakespeare) Copyright Control

    Arranged, conducted and produced by John Shakespeare

    Recorded 20th July 1962


    33. Pop Gear (John & Joan Shakespeare) Copyright Control

    Arranged, conducted and produced by John Shakespeare

    Recorded 10th December 1964



    34. Let The Train Take The Strain (John & Joan Shakespeare) Copyright Control

    Arranged, conducted and produced by John Shakespeare

    Recorded at Lansdowne Studios, London

    24th August 1971


    35. Zal (1970’s version) (John & Joan Shakespeare) Copyright Control

    Arranged, conducted and produced by John Shakespeare

    Recorded at Olympic Recording Studios, London

    7th January 1977


    36. Kenny Everett sketch

    (Featuring We’re Gonna Change The World) (David Matthew/Tim Harris) Air Music (London) Ltd

    Broadcast 20th December 1970

    From “Start the Week” with Kenny Everett



    Mastered where possible from the original Mono, Stereo and Multitrack tapes. Where tapes sources cannot be found it has been necessary to use shellac, acetate and vinyl disc sources, off air and home recorded tapes. Every effort has been made to minimise the defects inherent in the original sources, but some surface noise or tape his may still be evident.


    Remixed, Mastered and Restored by Richard Moore – Mint Audio Restoration.


    Compiled by Michele Monro and Richard Moore.
     
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  4. RMoore

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  5. dance_hall_keeper

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    Messrs Martin and Parsons.
     
  6. RMoore

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    You wanted album by album + contemporary singles discussions, so here goes - I will attempt to post the next step each week. At the moment as i'm not too busy over Christmas & New Year. But this may slow down if I'm up neck.
    Starting with the originally released material pre Parlophone. Next time will be all later issues of demo & broadcast material dating from the same period.


    Matt Monro releases pre 1960 Pt 1


    Early Compilation tracks

    “Strange Lady In Town” - “Hillbilly Favourites” also issued as “Popular Hit Parade” – EMO9 – Top Hits Of The Month Record Club - UK released take re-issued on Matt Uncovered/Rarities. Alternate take issued in Canada on MO-57 (Currently unavailable on CD. Estate hasn’t got this disc, only an MP3 and a Cassette copy!) Issued under the artist “Top Hits Orchestra & Vocalists”

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    Top Pop Club International No. 16 Society 1958 TPC16

    The Heart Of A Man

    Twixt Twelve and Twenty

    I Know

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    Re-issued on Matt Uncovered/Rarities CD

    Both Top Hits and Top Pop Club archives are lost, assumed destroyed. All released taken from disc dubs


    Bound for Texas The Chaplin Revue - Brunswick LAT 8345

    All releases of this album , even back in 1959 come from optical soundtrack. No original tapes known to survive.

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    Singles

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    Ev’rybody Falls In Love With Someone/ Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind

    Decca 1956 F 10816 (may have been 78rpm only)

    Gone With The Wind/ My Old Flame

    Decca 1956 F10839

    My House Is Your House (Mi Casa Su Casa)/Which Way to Boston (The Bean Song)

    Decca 1957 F 10870

    The Garden Of Eden/ Love Me Do

    Decca 1957 F 10845

    I’ll Never Have A Sweetheart/ The Golden Age

    Fontana 1958 H 115 (78 rpm only)

    A Story Of Ireland/ Another Time Another Place

    Fontana 1958 H 122

    Prisoner of Love/ Have Guitar Will Travel

    Fontana 1958 H 167

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    Recommended CD Release – “The Complete Singles Collection”



     
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  7. RMoore

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    Matt Monro releases pre 1960 Pt 2

    Album


    Blue and Sentimental - Issued April 1957
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    Decca LF 1276 (10” LP)



    Side A

    1. You Always Hurt The One You Love (Allan Roberts/Doris Fisher)

    2. A Cottage For Sale (Willard Robison/Larry Conley)

    3. That Old Feeling (Lew Brown/Sammy Fain)

    4. Memories Of You (Eubie Blake/Andy Razaf)

    5. What Can I Say After I Say I’m Sorry (Walter Donaldson/Abe Lyman)



    Side B

    6. Gone With The Wind (Allie Wrubel/Herbert Magidson)

    7. Do You Ever Think Of Me (Earl Burtnett/John Cooper/Harry Kerr)

    8. Dancing With Tears In My Eyes (Joseph Burke/Al Dubin)

    9. Once In A While (Michael Edwards/ Bud Green)

    10. I Cried For You (Gus Arnheim/Abe Lyman/Arthur Freed)



    Produced By Dick Rowe

    Arranged and Conducted by Malcolm Lockyer

    Recorded at Decca Studios - 28th October 1956



    US Edition: London LL 1611 (12” LP)

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    Side A

    1. You Always Hurt The One You Love
    2. A Cottage For Sale
    3. That Old Feeling
    4. The One I Love* (Gus Kahn/Isham Jones)
    5. Dancing With Tears In My Eyes
    6. What Can I Say After I Say I’m Sorry


    Side B

    1. Do You Ever Think Of Me
    2. Gone With The Wind
    3. Once In A While
    4. I Cried For You
    5. My Old Flame (Sam Coslow/Arthur Johnston)
    6. Memories Of You
    *Recorded 31st January 1957

    Recommended CD release “Matt Monro Sings” (Not Now Music)
     
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  8. Great Music Lover

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    Excellent info Richard. Do you possess any of these records.
     
  9. vzok

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    OK, I'm going to give this album-by-album thread a go chronologically shortly.

    I hope I'm not treading on Richard's toes as he is in the process of providing a list of albums and singles.

    I'll be sauntering through Matt's albums and singles in a separate thread so as not to clog this discussion up, and hopefully someone will join in and offer their thoughts on Matt and his music.
     
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  10. adriatikfan

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    How I wish I could like posts more than once. Richard's posts are deserving of a 'super-like' option.

    Best Wishes,
    David
     
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  11. vzok

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    Yes it is a fantastic contribution from Richard. Very much appreciated.
     
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  12. Great Music Lover

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    I’ve just been listening to some samples of the "two-fers" on iTunes and was surprised to find a mix of mono and stereo songs. I know these albums were originally released in mono and Stereo, so it seems strange that a Parlophone re-issue contains a mixture of both on one album. I have not heard the original releases so can anyone confirm that the Stereo album was stereo all the way through. Thanks.
     
  13. RMoore

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    Some, but I do own every single released track. (and all the unreleased ones!). The Monro estate hold all of Matt's discography in vinyl & CD format so I have references to go to if required.
     
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  14. RMoore

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    Be my guest. I was only posting those things here because I thought it was what you wanted me to do. I'll leave you to it. Just ask if you need anything.
     
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  15. RMoore

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    The Two-fers as I explained were a mess. They did however use complete masters so if they used a Mono LP master it was Mono all the way through and likewise a Stereo Master. Stereo all the way through. Most of the Capitol albums 1966 - 67 were issued this way were 2nd (or possibly 3rd) generation Mono tapes (all that was retained by the UK archive) All the first gen Stereo Masters are in the Capitol USA vaults and are what I've used in my remasters - transferred for me at Capitol Tower as 24/96 files.
     
  16. vzok

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    You are most kind. Do carry on posting your listings here. My thread will be a slow crawl through Matt's music, to give anyone that wants to a chance to chip in with comments. I wouldn't want that to hold you up here.
     
  17. Norman Day

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    Thanks - looks like I was sold a pup there! The tracks sound good to me even if they are mono but they are probably a vinyl rip as you say. I suppose I have the mono version at least! :) I believe I have found the 'correct' version on Qobuz. It is on the Parlophone label and it again sounds good but in Stereo this time.

    I didn't realise the version on The George Martin Years of 'No one will ever know' was the '1st Version' from the 11th May 1961 till I did a comparison! Must use my glasses!
     
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  18. Norman Day

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    That's fantastic - thanks Richard!
     
  19. Great Music Lover

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    Interesting. Richard, can you elaborate further as I do not understand why the Capitol albums in '66/67 would use 2nd let alone 3rd generation tapes for the mono records. Why didn’t they use the 1st generation for optimum sound when releasing a new album unless a 2nd generation was the result of a mono mix or tweak. Thanks. Mike
     
  20. Norman Day

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    Oh please carry on posting, Richard!
     
  21. Norman Day

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    I am completely overwhelmed by all this. Thanks again and please carry on!
     
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  22. RMoore

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    Will do!
     
  23. RMoore

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    It's quite simple. The first Generation masters are in the USA and the tapes sent to the UK were copies of those, If (as I believe) the Mono mixes are fold downs of the stereo that adds yet another generation to the tapes (1 - master, 2 - fold down, 3 - UK dub).

    When creating the two-fers EMI just took down what they had on the shelf in the UK library. I suspect that the UK was never sent tapes for the Stereo versions, instead it was either imports from the USA in new sleeves or perhaps stampers - I've never investigated it. The UK Stereo Market was still quite small in 66/67

    Matt recorded 4 & 3/4 albums in the USA. "This is the Life". "Here's to My Lady" (Both Issued in Mono from uk mono tapes) "These Years" (issued in Stereo from a Umatic dub of the US Stereo Master sent over for the compilation "Matt Monro - The Capitol Years") and "Invitation to Broadway" (Recorded 66 but issued 68 - Issued as the bulk of the CD "Hollywood and Broadway" all in Mono). Finally there is about half of "Invitation to the Movies" which was 3/4 newly recorded material made in the US plus "Strangers in the Night" from the LP "This is The Life" and "Born Free" & "Wednesday's Child" both recorded in the UK. This album has only seen re-release on a "Collectables" CD in the US.

    "Matt Monro - The Capitol Years" was an all stereo release and featured quite a lot of the tracks from these albums, This was compiled in the UK - hence the Umatic of "These Years", How the other tracks were sent I don't know, but no other Umatics are in the EMI archive. For cost cutting reasons I used the Umatic dub of the few "These Years" tracks on Complete Singles Collection. I recall that despite the fact this was a digital copy of the 1st gen master they STILL used noised reduction!

    The rest of Matt's Capitol albums "Late Late Show" & "Were Gonna Change The World" (Or it's similar "Close to You" in the US) were recorded in the UK apart from two tracks "Close To You" and "Why Can't I Touch You" (probably the worst song Matt ever recorded) recorded at Matt's last session for Capitol in the US. The two Spanish albums albums were mainly recorded in the UK, with a some tracks on "En Espana" recorded in Spain. All the Masters for those albums (except the two US recorded tracks) are held in the UK.
     
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    Wow - that explains a lot. I had no idea he recorded some of his albums in the USA and that they effectively supplied tapes to the UK. Was the Capitol Years a Box Set of albums or a single comp album. Thanks for that interesting information Richard.
     
  25. RMoore

    RMoore Forum Resident

    Single Compilation CD - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Capitol-Years-Matt-Monro/dp/B001I1G9UU
    Compiled by the late great Mickie Monro in 1990.
     

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