Mel Gibson's Great Passion

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  1. Larry Naramore

    Larry Naramore Bonafied Knucklehead Thread Starter

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    First off please don't turn this into a religious discussion.

    Here's an interveiw with Mel Gibson and a link to the movie trailer. Looks like a winner! IMHO...

    Mel Gibson's Great Passion
    Christ's Agony as You've Never Seen It

    ROME, MARCH 6, 2003 (Zenit.org).- Oscar winning actor-director Mel Gibson is in Rome these days, working on a film on the passion of Christ at the Cinecittà studios.

    The movie focuses on the last hours of Christ's life and stars Jim Caviezel ("The Thin Red Line," "Angel Eyes," "The Count of Monte Cristo") as Jesus. Gibson granted the following exclusive interview to ZENIT.

    Q: What made you decide to do this project?

    Gibson: It's been slowly coming on for about 10 or 12 years now. I'm a pretty old guy, but if you go back 12 years I was 35. That's when I started to investigate the roots of my faith. I had always believed in God, that he existed, and I was brought up to believe in a certain way.

    But in my middle years, I kind of drifted, and other things took center stage. At that point, I realized I needed something more if I was going to survive. A closer investigation of the Gospels, of the story, of the whole piece, was demanded of me.

    That's when the idea started to percolate inside my head. I began to see it realistically, re-creating it in my own mind so that it would make sense for me, so I could relate to it. That's what I want to put on the screen.

    Q: So many movies about the life of Christ have already been made. Why make another one?

    Gibson: I don't think other films have tapped into the real force of this story. I mean, have you seen any of the others? They are either inaccurate in their history, or they suffer from bad music or bad hair. This film will show the passion of Jesus Christ just the way it happened. It's like traveling back in time and watching the events unfold exactly as they occurred.

    Q: How can you be sure that your version is so accurate?

    Gibson: We've done the research. I'm telling the story as the Bible tells it. I think the story, as it really happened, speaks for itself. The Gospel is a complete script, and that's what we're filming.

    Q: This seems like a switch from the usual Mel Gibson productions. Your specialty is action, adventure and romance. What made you decide to do a religious film?

    Gibson: I'm doing what I've always done: telling stories I think are important in the language I speak best: film. I think most great stories are hero stories. People want to reach out and grab at something higher, and vicariously live through heroism, and lift their spirit that way.

    There is no greater hero story than this one -- about the greatest love one can have, which is to lay down one's life for someone. The Passion is the biggest adventure story of all time. I think it's the biggest love-story of all time; God becoming man and men killing God -- if that's not action, nothing is.

    Q: Who will want to see a film like this?

    Gibson: I think everyone will. The story has inspired art, culture, behavior, governments, kingdoms, countries -- it has influenced the world in more ways than you can imagine. It's a pivotal event in history that has made us what we are today. Believers and nonbelievers alike, we have all been affected by it.

    So many people are searching for meaning in life, asking themselves a lot of questions. They'll come looking for answers. Some will find them, some won't.

    Q: So this film isn't only for Christians?

    Gibson: "Gandhi" was a blockbuster hit, but it wasn't just for Hindus. This film is for everyone. For believers and nonbelievers, Jesus Christ is undoubtedly one of the most important historical figures of all time. Name one person who has had a greater impact on the course of history.

    Q: But if this film is focused on bringing the Gospels to life, won't it be offensive to non-Christians? For example, the role of the Jewish leaders in Jesus' death. If you depict that, won't it be offensive?

    Gibson: This isn't a story about Jews vs. Christians. Jesus himself was a Jew, his mother was a Jew, and so were his Twelve Apostles. It's true that, as the Bible says, "He came unto his own and his own received him not"; I can't hide that.

    But that doesn't mean that the sins of the past were any worse than the sins of the present. Christ paid the price for all our sins.

    The struggle between good and evil, and the overwhelming power of love go beyond race and culture. This film is about faith, hope, love and forgiveness. These are things that the world could use more of, particularly in these turbulent times. This film is meant to inspire, not to offend.

    Q: Even so, some people are going to think that you just want to "push your beliefs on others." Is that true?

    Gibson: I didn't invent this story. I do happen to believe it. It's something that just gets inside of you and has to come out. I'm just trying to tell it well, better than it's ever been told before. When you're dealing with non-fiction, a director's responsibility is to make it as accurate as possible. Open-minded people will appreciate it for what it is.

    Q: What about the violence? Won't people find some of the more graphic scenes inappropriate?

    Gibson: Some people might, but, hey, that's the way it was. There is no gratuitous violence in this film. I don't think anyone under 12 should go see it -- unless they're a very mature 12-year-old. It's pretty heavy.

    I think we have gotten too used to seeing pretty crucifixes on the wall and we forget what really happened. I mean, we know that Jesus was scourged, that he carried his cross, that he had nails put through his hands and feet, but we rarely think about what this means.

    Growing up I didn't realize what was involved in this. I didn't realize how hard it was. The full horror of what Jesus suffered for our redemption didn't really strike me. Understanding what he went through, even on a human level, makes me feel not only compassion, but also a debt: I want to repay him for the enormity of his sacrifice.

    Q: What about the language barrier? You're filming in two dead languages -- Latin and Aramaic -- and you're not planning to use subtitles. Won't that be a turnoff?

    Gibson: Caravaggio's paintings don't have subtitles, but people get the message. The Nutcracker Ballet doesn't have subtitles, but people get the message. I think that the image will overcome the language barrier. That's my hope.

    I'm just trying to be as real as possible. There is something kind of startling about watching it in the original languages. The reality comes out and hits you. Full-contact. I know we are only re-creating, but we are doing the best we can to simulate an experience of really being there.

    And I think it's almost counterproductive to say some of these things in a modern language. It makes you want to stand up and shout out the next line, like when you hear "To be or not to be" and you instinctively say to yourself, "That is the question."

    But if you hear the words spoken as they were spoken at the time, it can kind of stun you. I've seen that happen when we're working. It gets a clarity to it through the acting, through the nuances of the characters, the movement of the camera -- it's the movement, it's the timing, it's everything. All of a sudden it's very, very clear to me. That's when I cut and move on.

    Q: When you finish this project, will it be a letdown to go back to less sublime subject matter?

    Gibson: No, it will be a relief to do something that's a little lighter. There is a tremendous burden of responsibility in this one, not to sell anything short. I just hope I can do justice to the story. You can't please everybody, but then again, that's not my goal.
     
  2. FabFourFan

    FabFourFan Senior Member

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    Mel's not too bright and he's playing with fire, isn't he?

    Maybe he's been doing his own stunts again? ;)



    FFF
     
  3. Brian Cruz

    Brian Cruz Forum Resident

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    What makes him not so bright? He's doing something he feels passionate about. (pun intended). He's not out to make a Hollywood blockbuster. If he was doing some existential, detached, artsy movie, he'd be considered a hero or genius, a film-maker's film-maker.:confused:
     
  4. ferric

    ferric Iron Dino In Memoriam

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    The Last Temptation of Mel
     
  5. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    BRAVO MEL! We love ya!:thumbsup:
     
  6. Holy Zoo

    Holy Zoo Gort (Retired) :-)

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    Oh boy... no subtitles... I don't know if I could watch this one... hmm...
     
  7. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    Re: Re: Mel Gibson's Great Passion

    :laugh: can you imagine today's teenagers even considering this?
    I wonder if they'll have a hip hop soundtrack to capture their interest?;)
     
  8. Mike

    Mike New Member

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    Mel Gibson has some interesting beliefs.

    In his own words, from Playboy, July 1995:

    PLAYBOY: What does he [Hutton Gibson] have to do with the Alliance for Catholic Tradition, which one magazine called "an extreme conservative Catholic splinter group"?

    GIBSON: He started it. Some people say it's extreme, but it emphasizes what the institution was and where it's going. Everything he was taught to believe was taken from him in the Sixties with this renewal Vatican Council. The whole institution became unrecognizable to him, so he writes about it.

    PLAYBOY: Do you believe in Darwin's theory of evolution or that God created man in his image?

    GIBSON: The latter.

    PLAYBOY: So you can't accept that we descended from monkeys and apes?

    GIBSON: No, I think it's ********. If it isn't, why are they still around? How come apes aren't people yet? It's a nice theory, but I can't swallow it. There's a big credibility gap. The carbon dating thing that tells you how long something's been around, how accurate is that, really? I've got one of Darwin's books at home and some of that stuff is pretty damn funny. Some of his stuff is true, like that the giraffe has a long neck so it can reach the leaves. But I just don't think you can swallow the whole piece.

    PLAYBOY: We take it that you're not particularly broad-minded when it comes to issues such as celibacy, abortion, birth control--

    GIBSON: People always focus on stuff like that. Those aren't issues. Those are unquestionable. You don't even argue those points.

    PLAYBOY: You don't?

    GIBSON: No.

    PLAYBOY: What about allowing women to be priests?

    GIBSON: No.

    PLAYBOY: Why not?

    GIBSON: I'll get kicked around for saying it, but men and women are just different. They're not equal. The same way that you and I are not equal.

    PLAYBOY: That's true. You have more money.

    GIBSON: You might be more intelligent, or you might have a bigger dick. Whatever it is, nobody's equal. And men and women are not equal. I have tremendous respect for women. I love them. I don't know why they want to step down. Women in my family are the center of things. An good things emanate from them. The guys usually mess up.

    PLAYBOY: That's quite a generalization.

    GIBSON: Women are just different. Their sensibilities are different.

    PLAYBOY: Any examples?

    GIBSON: I had a female business partner once. Didn't work.

    PLAYBOY: Why not?

    GIBSON: She was a c*nt.

    PLAYBOY: And the feminists dare to put you down!

    GIBSON: Feminists don't like me, and I don't like them. I don't get their point. I don't know why feminists have it out for me, but that's their problem, not mine.

    PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?

    GIBSON: He's a low-level opportunist. Somebody's telling him what to do.

    PLAYBOY: Who?

    GIBSON: The guy who's in charge isn't going to be the front man, ever. If I were going to be calling the shots I wouldn't make an appearance. Would you? You'd end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. Ifhe's the leader, he's getting shafted. What's keeping him in there? Why would you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.

    PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.

    GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.

    PLAYBOY: You really believe that?

    GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it's Marxism, but it just doesn't want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don't admit to it. Do it by stealth. There's a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

    PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

    GIBSON: Oh, ****. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if I keep talking ****.
     
  9. John B

    John B Once Blue Gort,<br>now just blue.

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    I was surprised (pleasantly) to see how articulate Mel was in the interview (from the first post). My next question is, was that interview live or was Mel scripted? If the former, then I am impressed. If the latter, on to the next ......
     
  10. Larry Naramore

    Larry Naramore Bonafied Knucklehead Thread Starter

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    Re: Re: Mel Gibson's Great Passion

    I would prefer English but "A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words"
     
  11. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    That interview was nearly 9 years ago...What's the point of posting that?
    Just curious...:)
     
  12. Holy Zoo

    Holy Zoo Gort (Retired) :-)

    Location:
    Santa Cruz
    Lets tread lightly here, both out of respect for the forum rules as well as Larry's request not to make this a religious debate.

    Please keep it about the film, not about Mel's religious beliefs.
     
  13. Brian Cruz

    Brian Cruz Forum Resident

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    Franklin, TN
    I can do that. ;) The film sounds interesting.
     
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