Musicians in bands that dont get enough credit or accolades

EVH trying to downplay the guy who his son replaced...

 

True, but Hall only released two solo albums during the period when H&O were having hits. One was the purposely noncommercial "Sacred Songs" and the other, as you note, did have a hit single. While Oates did cowrite a lot of the hits, often that just meant he was one of three people (with Hall and Sara Allen) contributing lyrics.

Again, not denying Oates is talented, but I'd say H&O were more of a true duo in the pre-Voices years. And maybe on Voices itself, but I'd guess that the success of the Hall-led singles (and the flop of "How Does It Feel To Be Back") led to a re-think.

 

Bass players.

 

Probably almost any nationally known musician would qualify. I get the impression there are about 100 people who get to sit at the cool kids table, and then there's everyone else.

 

He was also the best vocalist in the Springfield: and I mean 'best' in terms of having the most tuneful and conventionally attractive voice. Great writer, too; and, apparently, a nice guy.

 

Pete Townshend - for his backing vocals. They never seem to get much attention, but they're perfect and an integral part of the Who's classic sound.

 

Joey Santiago ~ Pixies

 

Dennis Dunaway, who was more important musically and conceptually to Alice Cooper than most people realize. And who was and is a kickass, virtuoso bassist.

 

I think I posted on this subject on a different thread recently, but I think on a certain level (and I say this as an Oates fan) Oates' main purpose for Hall in their 80s peak period was his name. Radio, fans, non-fans... they knew and liked the 'Hall and Oates' name. They knew (in the 80s) what it represented, what it was all about, what to expect. When Daryl stepped out for his solo album in 1986, I think a lot of casual fans didn't follow him because it wasn't Hall and Oates. It's difficult to explain. I think I used the song "Foolish Pride" as an example; if that had John's harmonies and was credited as 'Daryl Hall and John Oates' I think it would have been a Top 10 hit (as Hall's follow up to "Dreamtime", it was a minor hit). In short, it's the value of a well known brand name. We see it a lot when an artist steps out of a band to make a solo album. Even if that album isn't too different from what he/she was doing in their band, it often doesn't do as well. People just seem to like the known and familiar, usually.

 

Andy Mackay in Roxy Music
Steve Porcaro in Toto
Terry Chambers in XTC
Tony Hicks in the Hollies

 

Jerry Scheff (Doors [LA Woman], Elvis Presley)
Ronnie Tutt (Elvis Presley)
Dougie Thomson (Supertramp - check his sweet bass licks on Dreamer)
John Helliwell (Supertramp)
Bill Wyman (Stones)

 

Timothy B. Schmit

 

Mick Harvey. Kept Nick Cave productive and alive during the early days.

 

Was going to post Lifeson until I saw this rather amazing list. I saw Butler play live a couple years back and his playing was kinda jaw-dropping. The same for Downey with Lizzy / Black Riders a few years back. Lifeson has never topped the 'best of' polls like Peart and Lee and I just don't get it.

 

Andy Rourke of The Smiths

 

On the forum, Mike Love. I got my fur up in that other thread because Mike gets put down. Hearing Good Vibrations as a child was the first time I was fascinated by a song.
Apologies to Nostaljack, I was out of line.

 

They also dug the 'stache. LOL! Really. It was part of their identity.

Ed

 

All good. I had a feeling you were taking it personally. Were someone to come after Donny Hathaway similarly, I would too. All is totally forgiven...

Ed

 

Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce from the Smiths.

 

All day. He's a monster talent that was in a band with other monster talents and isn't thought of in the same breath at times

Ed

 

Hugh Grundy, from the Zombies. A *terrific* drummer.

 

Kasim Sulton. A journeyman bassist who has been with Todd Rundgren throughout most of his various styles, was the bass on Bat Out of Hell (and became Meat Loaf's Musical Director for years), was in The New Cars and is currently with Blue Oyster Cult. He also plays keys and guitar, and has a beautiful high tenor voice:

 

Mike Campbell (Tom Petty/HB guitarist)

 

Roy Hay (Guitarist) and Mikey Craig (BasS) in Culture Club. They make Colour By Numbers a rally great pop album.

 

John Weathers. He brought something totally different to the sound of Gentle Giant starting with Octopus.