Non-German true stereo Beatles Magical Mystery Tour*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by walrus, Feb 20, 2011.

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  1. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    This pressing has one stamper only on each side. The matrix numbers are04449-A1+C and 04449-B1+C) and no SHZE prefix.
     
  2. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    Maybe it's my setup, but this version of MMT does not sound very natural due to the low end. I've noticed this on a few other German Beatles pressings from the same era.
     
  3. Parlourphone

    Parlourphone New Member

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    London, UK
    I assume you're only interested in vinyl, because I see no mention of the UK 1973 issue cassette.
     
  4. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Milwaukee, WI
    Going from memory, the UK mix of Walrus (as heard on CD) is different from the mix issued in the US and Germany, namely that the UK mix doesn't mute the drum track after "I'm crying", while the other mix does. So the German LP is *not* identical to the CD.
     
  5. Nobby

    Nobby Senior Member

    Location:
    France
    Nearly!

    The mono mix mutes both drum tracks at that point, the German/US stereo mix mutes only one of the drum tracks.
     
  6. Tone

    Tone Senior Member

    All of the German MMT copies are quite bright and when you add more at the very bottom, it does sound unbalanced...... (I actaully wish the German MMTs had a little more midrange)

    As "Ben Sinise" says in the post link above (thanks!) ....."The later Apple pressing with smaller deadwax stamped 04449-A1+C/04449-B1+C has too much bass boost and as a consequence sounds unbalanced to my ears."

    So the general consensus is to look for the SHZE 327 A-1, and SHZE 327 B-3 matrix #s, regardless of whether a Horzu or Apple label (they sound the same).... These are far more common anyway than the A1+/B1+ matrix.
     
  7. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Milwaukee, WI
    I don't have it handy, but isn't one track mostly percussion and the other mostly drums (snare)? And it's the "drum" track that cuts out? Or do I have that backwards? This suggests I have it backwards...
     
  8. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    I actually prefer the UK EP to side 1 of the German LP.
     
  9. The UK cassette is also apparently completely in stereo from the same mixes
    as the German vinyl, MFSL cassette and DMM digital vinyl repress.
     
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  10. Curiosity

    Curiosity Just A Boy

    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I bought one sealed fairly cheaply but it'll be a few day before I get it however my understanding of it is it has every track in true stereo and Wally cut it. :hide:
     
  11. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    New York
    Just in case you come across this issue:

    1973
    Odeon 28 642-7 (Club Issue)*
    (Apple, Remarks in English, Hand-written type)
    with "Clubsonderauflage"

    Avoid it. The record club pressing, although it's German, uses the Capitol mastertape or a dub of it. I was looking to upgrade my German copy and bought this LP. I was shocked that the Capitol tape was used, with the 3 fake stereo mixes and the 1966 stereo mix of Strawberry Fields.

    I found one oddity. I Am The Walrus has the 6 beat intro, instead of 4 beats.
     
  12. Koptapad

    Koptapad Forum Resident

    Interesting that considering the economy there's been a big price increase on these.
     
  13. dayday

    dayday Senior Member

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    Michigan, USA
  14. slane

    slane Forum Resident

    Location:
    Merrie England
    Nearly. The UK cassette is actually exactly the same as the CD which came out 14 years later!

    (i.e. all 'UK' mixes)
     
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  15. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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  16. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Los Angeles
    Grant must have typed that.
     
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  17. Muzyck

    Muzyck Pardon my scruffy hospitality

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    Long Island
    Some later Israel CBS Portrait pressings also use the German stampers... :eek:

    You get a really cool green cover as a bonus. :D
     
  18. Ben Sinise

    Ben Sinise Forum Reticent

    Location:
    Sydney
    That particular cut is an early unmarked DMM pressing from the 80's; the "+C " in the dead wax denotes it was mastered on copper.
     
  19. Om

    Om Make Your Own Kind Of Music

    Location:
    Boston, USA
    Okay, do you mean to tell me the German mix never had a CD release?
     
  20. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI
    There isn’t a “German mix”.

    The German LP used the US mix of I Am The Walrus. The UK mix is on CD. Beyond that, the German LP used (copies of) the same mixes that are on CD.
     
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  21. Om

    Om Make Your Own Kind Of Music

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    Boston, USA
    Is that the only reason the German LP is sought after?
     
  22. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    Milwaukee, WI
    It’s sought after because people like how it sounds and it is all true stereo, unlike the original US and UK LPs.
     
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  23. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    NO Magical Mystery Tour LP is all True Stereo. Reason why, "I Am The Walrus" which is true stereo up to the King Lear "Sitting In An English Garden" section to the end of the track, which is rechanneled Stereo. The German Magical Mystery Tour HorZu issue onward is mostly, but due to the one track, not all True Stereo.
     
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