Pink Floyd remixing "The Wall"?

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  1. Cymbaline

    Cymbaline Shiny Dog

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    WHAT??? What extra guitar solo?
     
  2. Cymbaline

    Cymbaline Shiny Dog

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    Maybe they could have Alan Douglas erase the original backing tracks and bring in some anonymous studio dudes, like he did for Jimi Hendrix.
     
  3. pinkrudy

    pinkrudy Forum Resident

    color me interested :)
     
  4. genesisfan

    genesisfan Forum Resident

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    This could be potentially a GREAT RELEASE, average or crap (not to say rip-off)

    GREAT RELEASE: Super Deluxe


    - Originally intended master album with the 22 min of music re-added.
    - 3 CD + 2 DVD set. DVD1 including new 5.1 and stereo mixes. The Wall Lost Doc and Behind The Wall documentaries. DVD2 including Wall Live 1980-81 concert complete. CD3 including Wall demos, alternate take and mixes, Another Brick In The Wall single, etc. 50 Page book and all that!

    Average: Deluxe 2 CD + DVD. New stereo and 5.1 mixes. The Wall Lost Doc and Behind The Wall documentaries. 28-32 Page booklet

    Crap: new mixes only. Not extra music, no 5.1, no extras at all. 2 CD Crappy 10 page booklet with the same Gerald Scarfe handwritten lyrics
     
  5. stuwee

    stuwee Forum Resident

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    Yes, more info please!!
     
  6. RexKramer

    RexKramer Forum Resident

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    I heard the current solo is cobbled together from two or three earlier cuts as the one David was happy with somehow got erased. Is there more that goes on after the fade, or are you referring to something else?

    Mark
     
  7. ponkine

    ponkine Forum Resident

    The original Comfortably Numb, I mean, the master version before the famous last-minute cuts was 1 minute longer, with more guitar solo at the end. Other songs were longer too. They edited the In The Flesh intro, the Thin Ice piano intro (on the LP and CD we hear David singing immediatly after the baby), the song What Shall We Do Now, etc. 20-22 min in total were edited out :shake:

    Now there's a golden chance to bring back all that music!
     
  8. ponkine

    ponkine Forum Resident

    Yes, it has more solo after the fade, 1 minute more.

    The Comfortably Numb solo was indeed a "best of" 3 guitar solos, edited by James Guthrie, who selected the best parts. ABITW II was a "best of" too, but after selectin the best parts, Dave went and played that new compiled solo in one take

    :wave:
     
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  9. steveharris

    steveharris Forum Resident

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    Wolfie is reported to be playing bass geetar :winkgrin:
    This sounds very interesting.Maybe there is still a chance of hearing the hi res Wish You Were Here too.
     
  10. Millstone

    Millstone New Member

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    Why do you people want 5.1 mixes? a 2ch soundstage is enough to realistically reproduce a band playing in front of you. I for one am ecstatic to hear about this! i've always thought the recording sounded a little muddy.
     
  11. Jackstar74

    Jackstar74 Forum Resident

    What Shall We Do Now has to be included....that kicks ***.
     
  12. Grant

    Grant A 60s, 70s & 90s Lovin' Musical Free-Spirit

    Good thing there are billions of the original mixes on this earth.
     
  13. Guardian

    Guardian Active Member

    I'm not sure why they feel the need to remix it. Whats wrong with the original mix? :shrug:
     
  14. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    I'm not even certain they can improve on the original it's that good. If they do add back all the missing parts that would be :cool:
     
  15. Millstone

    Millstone New Member

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    How will you know until you hear the remix?
     
  16. Guardian

    Guardian Active Member

    Truth is I cant but I'm not going to drop another $35 so I can find out how it sounds when I'm perfectly satisfied with the "old" and pukey mix. I'll take that money and buy me some more records :hide:
     
  17. fitzysbuna

    fitzysbuna Forum Resident

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    trust me you will end up buying it !
     
  18. Millstone

    Millstone New Member

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    No, you will buy it, especially if this double LP (which may become a 3 or 4 record set if all the original material is reinstated) is only $35
     
  19. head_unit

    head_unit Forum Resident

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    3-channel front with a true center channel mixed in is VASTLY different than stereo. Listen to a mix demo from Tom Holman-don't know if that was ever released though. He did a level-matched demo mixed stereo vs. center channel-no contest, not even close. With the center, the vocal came...right out of the center, fancy that! With stereo, a kind of illusion or shadow of the voice would float in the middle IF you were lucky enough to sit on the center line. Otherwise, you were out of luck.

    The basic difference, even on-axis, is that the stereo presentation comes out of speakers each contributing their own set of room reflections, as opposed to the center channel with 1 set of room reflections.

    I'd summarize as stereo can give an illusion of centered content IF you are on-axis, whereas an actual center just sounds much closer to the real thing. You might actually prefer the illusion if that is what you are habituated to-several famous mixers including Alan Parsons are unfortunately in that camp-but that doesn't mean it's more accurate, just that you are used to it. And as a music professor I knew once said "We don't know what we like. We like what we know."
     
  20. Millstone

    Millstone New Member

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    Okay but you're still talking about the front of the soundstage, 5.1 has 2 surround speakers.
     
  21. comes_a_time

    comes_a_time Forum Resident

    My speculation is there will be a new version released to coincide with Roger's Tour. Hopefully on SACD with 5.1 and a bunch of previously cut material :D
     
  22. Millstone

    Millstone New Member

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    no, DVD-A so it can be ripped to a computer. :nauga:
     
  23. kevin5brown

    kevin5brown Forum Resident

    I wasn't too excited about this when I first heard about it, but the fact that there's some extra material that could be incorporated has me cautiously optimistic. :righton:
     
  24. I don't know what to think of this. If they're going to do it the Genesis way I'll pass. But if the album will get the same treatment as In The Court Of The Crimson King things could get interesting. And please add that long awaited The Wall live 1980/81 to the package as well.
     
  25. dolstein

    dolstein Forum Resident

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    The released stereo mixes included substantial edits that were necessary to fit the album onto 2LPs. One song was dropped entirely. Hopefully Guthrie will be restoring the album to its full length (which would probably match pretty closely what was performed in concert).
     
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