Pink Floyd - "The Endless River" -- New Release October 2014 (Part Three)

I agree with all of this wholeheartedly with the exception of The Final Cut being better than The Wall. Excellent post!

 

The Wall couldn't possibly be mistaken for any other band on the planet. It's PINK FLOYD all the way.

 

Sure. But it was a huge departure from their previous albums especially if you experienced it as a new release like I did.

 

That's what Pink Floyd specialized in, like Bowie or Radiohead.

Where Waters went wrong was not evolving once more after The Wall. He just keep making variations on a theme. Gilmour, Mason, and Wright also failed to update their sound post-Waters, which is probably why clip #2 sounds hopelessly outdated.

Dylan did not make this mistake with Love and Theft and Tempest.

 

I'm one of those people that will shell over just for the brand name, although to be fair that includes solo albums. Been doing it since 1987, and its too hard to stop now. Its a done deal whether I will like it or not. There are very few bands I will do that for (King Crimson & Hendrix for more examples). They've always been an album band for me, so to judge them on clips just won't do justice. I have to hear the entire thing to get an impression. But I totally understand those who are underwhelmed by it. I'm not that crazy about the clips either, but wouldn't be surprised if hearing it finished would yield much better results. All I personally hope for is more bass than the Division Bell 5.1 remix. Quad is fine, but with very little bass, it loses its power.

 

No idea if it has been mentioned before, but apart from the album title being lifted from the High Hopes lyric, another title on the new album, Ebb And Flow, can be found in the On An Island title track, while the title Louder Than Words (the only vocal track on the new album) can be found within the lyric of Sorrow.
Any more that I've missed?

 

Same here,like a parent that will hang their child's crayon sribble picture on the fridg out of love for anything they produce,I will buy anything Floyd even tho I may not listen to it for years at a time.

 

Actually seeing them all lined up like this is absolutely awesome! The new artwork fits in just fine

 

I am looking forward to this album. I think it will be great. At this point in their lives why would Gilmour and Mason release anything that they didn't feel was stellar? They have nothing to prove.

Also, why call it Wright's Swan Song unless it is good? Talk about upping expectations...

 

I was listening to The Division Bell the other night. During "High Hopes", I noticed towards the end of the song that Gilmour sings the line "the endless river".
Never noticed it before.

 

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder
With friends surrounded
The dawn mist glowing
The water flowing
The endless river
Forever and ever

 

Apparently, the official PF store requires instant charging of credit cards even for pre-order items, unlike Amazon.

Looks like I'll be sticking to Amazon on this one.

 

What criteria will be used to decide if this is studio album is better/worse than Moment/Atom/Final/Umma?

 

If I like it more or less.

 

The only real criteria that exists, your own personal perception of the album.

 

Don't forget the critics...

 

I'm no longer convinced of the worthiness of music critics, the only criteria they can accurately judge is recording quality, maybe level of technical performance, etc. But everything else is 100% subjective so a supposedly objective review of an album...isn't. All you can really do is find a music critic with similar subjective opinions to your own and then use them as a gauge.

 

I don't really see that. There was a dramatic shift after Piper with the loss of their main singer/writer/guitarist. Animals and The Wall were significant breaks.

I see a pretty gradual evolution through the following albums: Saucerful/More/Ummagumma/AHM/Meddle/OBC/DSOTM/WYWH.

Their more epic pieces particularly represent a continuum: Saucerful > Atom Heart > Echoes > WYWH

 

Seriously? You don't hear a distinct and obvious change in sound from The Wall and Final Cut to AMLOR (a very 80's production which sounds nothing like their previous 2 records) and The Division Bell (an extension of AMLOR updated)? Are we both listening to the same albums? Like the post-Waters albums or not the band continued to evolve in their sound while staying true to some of their distinctive elements.

 

Maybe he was saying, as you also alluded to, that they didn't update their sound from AMLOR to Division Bell.

 

Well that's not how it came off. And I would still disagree. Division Bell veered far from that abhorrent 80's production sound on AMLOR, especially in regards to those electronic drums.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Endless_River

 

Does the Blu Ray come with a high rez download code?

 

It says here that all material was composed by Gilmour, Mason and Wright. Speculation?
It would be nice to have Mason included in the songwriting department again... would be his first co-composer credits since La Carrera Panamericana (and his first on a Floyd record since Any Colour You Like).

 

I was going to say the same thing!