Possible sealed copy of Led Zeppelin II RL pressing??

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  1. rockclassics

    rockclassics Forum Resident

    Arkansas, USA
    Was it Lee Hulko (LH) that cut the other side? I may be confusing him with another album.
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  2. JustGotPaid

    JustGotPaid Forum Resident

    I need to get an RL......

    So 15 pages and the OP has not opened it? ??
  3. hutchenstance

    hutchenstance Well-Known Member

    Arlington, VA
    I went to the basement and dug out five LZ II.. four are RL's and one is not.. they are all the lighter shade but the one that is not has the gold record sticker on it.... the non RL has no inner sleeve.. two RLs have white inner sleeves one of which is really really new.. two RLs have an Atlantic Records inner sleeve with the same record pictures on it SD8149 on top right corner on one side/ SD1500 on another... if one had a little hole to see through and one new the inner sleeve i'm talking about one might be able to determine if it had the correct inner sleeve but i am not sure that would be a guarantee of anything..
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  4. David P. Hill

    David P. Hill Forum Resident

    Irving, Tx
    Are all of your RL's that you own, on both sides of the lps, do they have RL on both sides of each lp in the deadwax?
  5. hutchenstance

    hutchenstance Well-Known Member

    Arlington, VA
    yes they all have the RL on both sides
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  6. Locutus67

    Locutus67 Forum Resident

    This certainly ranks as one of the most informative & entertaining threads I've ever seen.

    There's also been enough to remind me of this:

    I'm looking forward to another 10 pages before the OP has a nervous breakdown & opens it up. :-popcorn:
  7. David P. Hill

    David P. Hill Forum Resident

    Irving, Tx
    I have been looking for about 2 yrs now, pretty high too! What's a good price for a near mint, lp and cover?
  8. Ash76

    Ash76 Senior Member

    I have a one-sided RL but it's German, not American.
    The non RL side sounds awful compared to the RL side and to my Australian pressing (and to my double RL)
  9. hutchenstance

    hutchenstance Well-Known Member

    Arlington, VA
    well I got to be honest.. I would not know... I found mine digging around in stores where people didn't really bother checking matrices and looking for "RL"..so I don't really know.. only one of mine is in great shape.. the other 3 vary between VG- and VG+... but I paid $1 for my best one about 10 years ago.. and the others I paid $1 or $3........ the $3 I got in 2015.. so they're out there
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  10. ArpMoog

    ArpMoog Forum Resident

    Thats it. I just put it on. Not bad at all.
  11. I don't get this. Please see post #294, p. 12, with the pix of an RL. I used to have one like that too. Can't get any darker than this...
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  12. daveidmarx

    daveidmarx Forem Residunt

    Astoria, NY USA
    That's besides the point that was being made which was whether it was "false pretenses" or not to advertise it as a potential RL. As no one can say with absolute certainty what's inside the record / unless it's opened, I believe that there would be no false pretenses involved in advertising it as such. Of course it's up to the OP as to what he will do with it but again, that's besides the point
  13. David P. Hill

    David P. Hill Forum Resident

    Irving, Tx
    Wow, nice find on the $1 one, unbelievable! Been to several record shows and indie stores around Austin, DFW area, and ebay mostly. Yes they are out there, but the news about it, spreaded like wildfire, causing the price to inflate. Would I have to pay more than a $100 for a near mint one, that is on ebay?
  14. hutchenstance

    hutchenstance Well-Known Member

    Arlington, VA
    its possible a cover got switched.. the RLs I have are all in the lighter , heavy stock non glossy gatefolds..
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  15. boboquisp

    boboquisp Close To The Edge...

    NE Ohio
    Yes, a "near mint" one on Epay would be easily over a hundred bucks.
    Best to find a decent one in the wild, hidden in the bushes, unknown by the seller about what an RL is.
    Or get lucky in the forum classifieds.
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  16. sublemon

    sublemon Forum Resident

    yeah can't you get a bright light and a magnifiying glass and look in a bit to see if the correct inner is there at least. that would tell you whether it's not an RL anyway.
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  17. cwd

    cwd Forum Resident

    Clarksville, TN
    Kevin j said:
    but what is the allure of the RL cut of this album? the SOUND!! that's it. I think you're afraid to open it now because you're pretty sure it's not an RL, and you think that you can sell it to someone else under the false pretense that it "may be an RL".

    It SEEMED OP was being called out for an intent of false pretenses. This particular post did not seem to quibble on that point. Unless OP wants to be coy and "doth protest too much"-"gee, it is POSSIBLE it could be an RL"-and I am going to give the benefit of the doubt that such is not the case-then, as I said I think he at least looked like he was avoiding the "fp" scenario.
  18. Sparkler

    Sparkler Forum Resident

    Leesburg, VA
    I think the problem lies with the use of "dark" as a descriptor. That dark in post 294 is the "chocolate brown" which is the original matte cover and is the cover that all RL's will have. Of course, given the heavy cardboard and how the LP has been stored for more than 45 years, these can show up as a nice dark hue as in that photo or be totally worn and washed out down to a light brown.

    However, the later glossy cover which some are calling the "darker" one is really a different hue, not necessarily darker. Most copies show as a deep maroon to my eyes more than a dark brown. The OP's copy is clearly of this hue and thus almost certain to not be an RL pressing.
  19. mpayan

    mpayan Forum Resident

    How will the lp be admitted?

    Name: Hatchet, Molly

    MR #: 666

    Dx: IGD, rule out possible scratch to "Flirting With Disaster"

  20. Samson7

    Samson7 Forum Resident

    This is probably a dumb question and off topic, but, why don't they do a vinyl reissue of the RL LZII. He is still alive. It seems like it would be easy money. I don't really like LZ anymore but I would buy it.
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  21. Ash76

    Ash76 Senior Member

    For near mint at least double that on eBay unless you get lucky
  22. Combination

    Combination Forum Resident

    New Orleans
    Probably 4-5 times that, and a true near mint one is a bit of a needle in a haystack. I'd be searching out a VG+ copy, as that's a bit more realistic.
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  23. Haggis Wampovich

    Haggis Wampovich Professor of Dead Languages

    Three Rivers, USA
    Do it! You won't regret it.
  24. Partyslammer

    Partyslammer Forum Resident

    $500 - $1,200+ depending on your luck. RL LZII's in excellent to mint condition are extremely hard to find due to the fact just about everyone who originally bought the album played and thrashed it to death and it was really years before many collectors caught on to the rarity and uniqueness of that first issue. You can find mediocre to decent, well played copies easily enough for under a couple hundred bucks but the trade-off for *that* sound vs all the surface noise a well worn copy will give you is imo, not really worth the cash outlay such copies go for.
  25. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm a "Citizens For Boysenberry Jam" Fan

    Ohio USA
    I seem to remember there were two versions of the RL available. One with a wider trail off wax than the other.
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