Prince's Music Vault

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  1. zphage

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    Warner Music Group co-owns the rights to all the unreleased music in Prince’s vault that was recorded between 1978 and 1996, when Prince was under contract there, and those songs can’t be released without permission from both the label and whoever takes control of Prince’s estate. It isn’t clear who that will be because Prince wasn’t married, had no children and cycled through many business managers.


    Alan Leeds, who worked for the musician from 1983 until 1992, first as a tour manager and then as president of Paisley Park Records, a joint venture with Warner Bros., Prince’s record label at the time, said the singer’s vaults contain “hundreds, if not thousands, of songs, but I’m not sure how many of them are really finished.”
     
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  2. JohnnyQuest

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    This is bittersweet. I've always wanted Prince to release the songs that were stashed away in his vault but not under these circumstances. :cry: Not like this.
     
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  3. FlatulentDonkey

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    And the profiteering is about to start
     
  4. videoman

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    There's a lot of stuff to be sure. Heard a guy on the radio yesterday who said he had been Prince's engineer from 1987 to 1989 that maybe 10% of the stuff he recorded during that period has been released.

    Unclear who would get control unless and until a will is read. He did have a younger sister.
     
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  5. gotityet0

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    :shake::(:cry:
     
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  6. Orthogonian Blues

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    About 18 months ago, a whole load of vault material started circulating widely on the net - I suppose these songs were hitherto only swapped between elite bootleg traders.

    Naturally, when I found a huge stash of these forbidden songs of mystery, I felt like I'd just been handed a first class flight to Minneapolis and the keys to Paisley Park. Like many people, I'd been dying to hear what he'd been keeping from us. There was supposed to be shelves of unreleased stuff that could stand alongside his best work, or so the mythology goes.

    In reality out of a few hundred tracks, the ones that I actually want to hear again would only fill about two and a half CDs.


    Maybe I am being too harsh - it's hard to do justice to so many songs acquired in such a short time, and the sound quality was far from perfect in most places. And some of the good stuff was very very good - any new Prince track from the top drawer is a blessing, right?

    What I am trying to say is... if the vault tapes are ever given a proper release, I'd advise you all to manage your expectations. And bear in mind that much of the material was just Prince sketching out some ideas.
     
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  7. SinisterGinger

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    I hope that whoever ends up in control of his archive looks after it. There's a tonne of stuff I'd love to see get released (The Second Coming movie from 1981, demos from 1980-1987, Crystal Ball, The Dream Factory and an archive series of live concerts would be amazing). Hope they can hire someone like Questlove to oversee all of it since he seems to know more about Prince's back catalogue than anyone, haha!
     
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  8. SinisterGinger

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    I agree - not all of the demos and unreleased stuff would be meant for anyone other than Prince. I hope that they don't bring in current artists to finish the songs off like they did with Michael Jackson's last two releases. That would be insulting.
     
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  9. Torontotom

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    Agreed. As much as I want reissues, demos, live performances, unreleased tracks, I really wanted Prince to live to see how his music would be administered, promoted, released, etc. It was a big part of who he was as a musician and businessman.
     
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  10. The Panda

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    I have a 2 cd collection with me today of all unreleased stuff. I think I play it more than most of his normal cds that I have.
    Even demos for the songs he gave away are really good--G Spot, High fashion, Uh Huh.

    If you get a chance , try to find the rehearsal of Let's Go Crazy where he changes the opening speech--it's hysterical first time you hear it.
     
  11. WilliamWes

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    I'm picturing a box set of an actual purple vault with the CD's inside. I bet if the releases start flowing, they'll be stylish and I'm sure there would be some great nuggets in there too.

    I don't think any other musician currently alive has this much unreleased material. Between Jackson and Prince, it's ridiculous. Brian Williams was anchoring and asked who would curate the release. They figured the family would hire some team to release some of it.
     
  12. hbbfam

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    Within about an hour of the news, I had emails from Music Direct, Acoustic Sound, Elusive Disc and even FYE soliciting me to by Prince music. It was amazing how quickly they "seized the moment".
     
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  13. videoman

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    A deluxe edition of "Purple Rain" with the full-length versions of every song and all the related b-sides and movie music and some alternate takes would be a nice place to start.....
     
  14. stodgers

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    Well, this seemingly contradicts something I read yesterday that part of his return to Warner was an agreement to revert the rights back to him, and thus his estate would have responsibility. But maybe that was just assuming that Warner would be okay with releasing anything the estate chose to.

    It would be awesome if he had the foresight to establish a foundation of some kind since there is no apparent heir.
     
  15. videoman

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    Hard to believe anyone with that size of an estate would not have some sort of will and legal plans. But you never know.
     
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  16. Jeff Kent

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    According to Kebin Smith who spent a day with Prince at Paisley Park, he also has many fully completed concept videos in his vault. Not just thrown together videos, full blown videos with sets, costumes, special effects...
     
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  17. stodgers

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    Especially someone who was so passionate about ownership of his work!
     
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  18. videoman

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    Yes. Another possibility is that Prince left instructions that no one touch the vault until 2099 or some such......
     
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  20. full moon

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    I imagine it will be a cluster and nothing will be put out for a long long time.
     
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  21. Olompali

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    One man's "sketches" are another man's view into the Akashic Record:righton::cool:;)
     
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  22. stodgers

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    "...jams with Miles Davis."

    Sigh...
     
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  23. petem1966

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    Who are these shadowy people? I've come across this sort of description a lot in Beatle threads. Are they music biz insiders with access? Rich people with unlimited music budgets? Is it like trading in antiquities?
    I'm not being glib, just curious, it's a world I can't seem to get a handle on.
     
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  24. WilliamWes

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    Oh absolutely would be great if they grouped all the outtakes based on album sessions, but I have a bad feeling like many posthumous releases, they may like to promo vault material as "brand new Prince album" and then you'll get a song from 1983 and one from 2006 like the "Michael" release.

    There's so much material, every album could be a box set.
     
  25. Jeff Kent

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