R.I.P. Johnny Hallyday 1943-2017

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Laibach, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Forum Resident

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    That's not true at all. Throughout his career, he could sing anything from rockabilly to light ballads to pop, soul and hard rock. I recognise that and I'm not a fan!
     
  2. squittolo

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    Illusionniste de la mise en scène.
     
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  3. Ted Dinard

    Ted Dinard Forum Resident

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    To be fair, it's mostly a French guy who's trashing him.

    I've always liked Johnny Hallyday, have a fair amount of his music, and smile whenever he pops up on a playlist. And IM A MURICAN!
     
  4. smilin ed

    smilin ed Forum Resident

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    Here, here.
     
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  5. Calico

    Calico Forum Resident

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    Wrong, this was "Je veux te graver dans ma vie".
    And Cliff Bennet's cover version, a hit single in the UK, is based on Hallyday's version.
     
  6. yarbles

    yarbles Forum Resident

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    Where's that then?

    Good to know. Was he big in Japan as well?
     
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  7. noahjld

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  8. It's hard to put Serge Gainsbourg in the rock genre. He is from chanson and later went to RnB. Maybe I'm wrong.
     
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  9. coolsound

    coolsound Active Member

    i wasn't talking about different styles, but that he was always singing with the same tone, almost atonal. because he brokes his vocal chord concert after concert , cigaret and alcohool and people confounds this with a "powerful voice".
    and this is wrong : it's only 25 millions albums certified sold (including singles ). a lot of his LP were totally bad sales (less than 50 000 ) and don't forget that at the high times of his career in France people were only buying singles , not LPs !
    i am not playing trolls; only trying to tell the truth behind lies of the medias .
     
  10. melstapler

    melstapler Forum Resident

    Well said.
     
  11. Calico

    Calico Forum Resident

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    He had a wonderful pop/swinging London phase in 1967-1969.
     
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  12. bibijeebies

    bibijeebies Forum Resident

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    I once saw him filming a video clip in New York in the nineties. As a Dutchman I recognized him and shouted 'Johnny'. How could somebody recognize him over there in NYC? Going from memory I think he looked puzzled for a brief moment.
     
  13. Shakin

    Shakin Member

    Whilst on a holiday in the south of France in 1993 a song called 'Je Serai Là' by Johnny was a hit in France and it got a lot of airplay. Bought the cd-single as a kind of souvenir.
    In 2006, once again on a holiday in France, I saw cars with Johnny's face painted on it and I wanted to learn why he was such an icon in France. Decided to buy a dvd of his show 'Olympia 2000'. At home I started watching it and from then on, I'm a fan. The man had such a great voice! I loved his mixture of rock and ballads and the way he interacted with his audience.
    In 2008 a tour was announced for 2009 and it was said that it would be his last (which wasn't true...). Decided to buy tickets for a show in Brussels. It was probably one of the most exciting shows I've ever seen. (Also, never seen so many Johnny look-a-likes...) All in all a great experience!

    RIP Johnny!
     
  14. MJD

    MJD Well-Known Member

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    Please, check your facts right if you wanna tell others about the "truth". Even if he came out during a singles era, all his albums were blockbusters and when they started to pick up, he sold more of them than anyone else. Since mid-60s all his studio LPs sold at the very least 200,000 units. Not to mention that he got a 2 million seller almost 40 years into his career.

    You ridiculously refer to certified sales forgetting to mention that awards started in 1974, that Platinum discs arrived in 1980 only and that no cert exists over 1 million. I studied his album sales 6 years ago in France only and even with tons of missing figures, I identified more than 36,6 million album sales:

    Johnny Hallyday

    1960 Hello Johnny - N/A
    1961 Au Festival Du Rock 'N Roll - N/A
    1961 Nous Les Gars, Nous Les Filles - N/A
    1961 Salut Les Copains! - N/A
    1961 Tête A Tête Avec Johnny - N/A
    1961 Viens Danser Le Twist - N/A
    1962 La Fantastique Epopée Du Rock - N/A
    1962 A L'Olympia - N/A
    1962 Johnny Hallyday Sings America's Rockin' Hits - N/A
    1962 Johnny Hallyday Succès - N/A
    1962 Le Disque D'Or - N/A
    1962 L'Idole - N/A
    1962 Madison Twist - N/A
    1962 Retiens La Nuit - N/A
    1962 Twist In The Rock - N/A
    1963 D’Où Viens Tu Johnny - N/A
    1963 Da Dou Ron Ron - N/A
    1963 Les Bras En Croix - N/A
    1963 L'Idole Des Jeunes - N/A
    1964 A L'Olympia 64 - N/A
    1964 Bonne Chance - N/A
    1964 Le Pénitencier - N/A
    1964 Les Rocks Les Plus Terribles - N/A
    1965 Halleluyah - N/A
    1965 Johnny Chante Hallyday - N/A
    1966 La Génération Perdue - N/A
    1967 Au Palais Des Sports 67 - 150 000
    1967 Johnny 67 - N/A
    1967 Olympia 67 - N/A
    1968 Coffret Vogue - N/A
    1968 Jeune Homme - 200 000
    1968 Le Disque D'Or, Vol 1: Pas Cette Chanson - N/A
    1968 Le Disque D'Or, Vol 2: Elle Est Terrible - N/A
    1968 Le Disque D'Or, Vol 3: Le Pénitencier - N/A
    1968 Le Disque D'Or, Vol 4: Retiens La Nuit - N/A
    1968 Le Disque D'Or, Vol 5: Que Je T'Aime - N/A
    1968 Rêve Et Amour - 200 000
    1969 Que Je T'Aime / Au Palais Des Sports 69 - 250 000
    1969 Rivière… Ouvre Ton Lit / Je Suis Né Dans La Rue - 250 000
    1970 Coffret, 10 Ans De Ma Vie - N/A
    1970 Vie - 300 000
    1971 Flagrant Délit - 300 000
    1971 Fontana, Vol 1: L'Idole Des Jeunes - N/A
    1971 Fontana, Vol 2: Les Bras En Croix - N/A
    1971 Fontana, Vol 3: Les Rocks Les Plus Terribles - N/A
    1971 Fontana, Vol 4: Tes Tendres Années - N/A
    1971 Les 24 Premiers Succès - 150 000
    1971 Live At The Palais Des Sports - N/A
    1971 Pleins Feux Sur… - N/A
    1972 Country-Folk-Rock - 200 000
    1973 Hallyday Story, Vol 1: 1961-1966 - 300 000
    1973 Hallyday Story, Vol 2: 1967-1973 - 250 000
    1973 Impact, Vol 1: Le Pénitencier - 900 000
    1973 Insolitudes - 400 000
    1973 Succès 2 Disques: Retiens La Nuit - 250 000
    1974 Impact, Vol 2: L'Idole Des Jeunes - 800 000
    1974 Je t'Aime, Je T'Aime, Je T'Aime - 500 000
    1974 Les Premières Années - N/A
    1974 Rock'n Slow - 300 000
    1974 Souvenirs, Souvenirs, Festival Rock - N/A
    1974 Succès 2 Disques: Le Pénitencier - 250 000
    1975 Impact, Vol 3: Noir C'est Noir - 700 000
    1975 La Terre Promise - 400 000
    1975 Rock A Memphis - 500 000
    1975 Succès 2 Disques: Les Coups - 200 000
    1976 Atout Collection - N/A
    1976 Derrière L'Amour - 650 000
    1976 Hamlet - 250 000
    1976 Impact, Vol 4: Retiens La Nuit - 600 000
    1976 Palais Des Sports 76 - 500 000
    1976 Succès 2 Disques: Noir C'est Noir - 200 000
    1976 Succès 2 Disques: Olympia 62 et 64 - 175 000
    1977 C'Est La Vie - 550 000
    1977 Impact, Vol 5: Que Je T'aime - 400 000
    1977 Johnny Hallyday Chante Ses Succès - N/A
    1977 Réimpression - 250 000
    1978 Elle M'Oublie - N/A
    1978 Impact, Vol 6: Génération Perdue - 300 000
    1978 Impact, Vol 7: Cheveux Longs, Idées Courtes - 250 000
    1978 Solitudes à Deux - 500 000
    1979 20 Ans De Carrière - 100 000
    1979 Album, Vol 1: Retiens La Nuit - 100 000
    1979 Album, Vol 2: Rock 'N Roll Man - 100 000
    1979 Album, Vol 3: Que Je T'Aime - 100 000
    1979 Au Pavillon De Paris - 500 000
    1979 Hollywood - 300 000
    1979 Impact, Vol 8: Memphis USA - 250 000
    1979 Itsy Bitsy, Petit Bikini - N/A
    1979 Le Disque D'Or De Johnny Hallyday - 200 000
    1979 Souvenirs Souvenirs - N/A
    1979 Succès 2 Disques: 24 Rocks Célèbres - 100 000
    1979 Succès 2 Disques: Ceux Que L'Amour A Blessé - 100 000
    1980 À Partir de Maintenant... - 225 000
    1980 Face Au Public 1962-1969 - N/A
    1980 Face Au Public 1962-1979 - N/A
    1980 Face Au Public 1971-1979 - N/A
    1980 Impact, Double Impact Vol 1: Mes Yeux Sont Fous - N/A
    1980 Impact, Double Impact Vol 2: Viens Danser Le Twist - N/A
    1980 Impact, Double Impact Vol 3: Que Je T'Aime - N/A
    1980 Impact, Double Impact Vol 4: Comme Si Je Devais Mourir Demain - N/A
    1980 Impact, Vol 9: Gabrielle - 250 000
    1980 Le Double Disque D'Or - N/A
    1980 Succès 2 Disques: Oh! Ma Jolie Sarah - 100 000
    1980 Succès 2 Disques: Rock 'N Roll Man - 100 000
    1981 33 Tours Puzzle - N/A
    1981 En Pièces Détachées - 275 000
    1981 Impact, Vol 10: J'ai Oublié De Vivre - 150 000
    1981 J'Etais Fou - N/A
    1981 Johnny Live 81 - 200 000
    1981 Pas Facile - 400 000
    1982 Impact, Vol 11: Elle M'Oublie - 150 000
    1982 Intégrale Des Chansons 1960-1982 - N/A
    1982 La Peur - 525 000
    1982 Quelque Part un Aigle - 300 000
    1982 Ses 32 Premières Chansons Version 1982 - N/A
    1983 Entre Violence et Violon - 375 000
    1983 Impact, Coffret Blanc: Vol 1,6,8 - N/A
    1983 Impact, Coffret Bleu: Vol 10-12 - N/A
    1983 Impact, Coffret Noir: Vol 2,5,7 - N/A
    1983 Impact, Coffret Rouge: Vol 3,4,9 - N/A
    1983 Impact, Coffret: Vol 1-4 - N/A
    1983 Impact, Vol 12: Le Bon Temps Du Rock 'N Roll - 150 000
    1983 Les Années 60 - N/A
    1983 Palais Des Sports 82 - 175 000
    1984 Au Zénith - 300 000
    1984 Drole De Métier - 300 000
    1984 En V.O. - 150 000
    1984 Hallyday 84 Nashville: Les Enfants Du Rock - N/A
    1984 Hallyday 84: Nashville en Direct - N/A
    1984 Hallyday Story, Vol 3: 1974-1981 - 150 000
    1984 Impact, Vol 13: Ma Gueule - 150 000
    1984 Souvenirs, Souvenirs (BO) - N/A
    1985 Collection - N/A
    1985 Impact, Vol 14: Je T'Ai Aimée - 150 000
    1985 Rock'n'Roll Attitude - 550 000
    1985 Souvenirs, Souvenirs - N/A
    1986 Gang - 725 000
    1986 Silver Serie - N/A
    1987 Les Grands Succès - N/A
    1987 Master Serie 1 & 2 - 450 000
    1988 A Bercy - 375 000
    1988 Hallyday Story, Vol 4: 1982-1985 - 100 000
    1989 Cadillac - 825 000
    1989 Exclusivité Club Dial: Johnny Hallyday - N/A
    1989 Exclusivité France Loisirs: Johnny Hallyday - N/A
    1990 Exclusivité Club Dial: San Francisco - N/A
    1990 Les Tendres Années, 61-62 - N/A
    1990 Les Tendres Années, 62-63 - N/A
    1990 Les Tendres Années, 64-65 - N/A
    1990 Les Tendres Années, 66-68 - N/A
    1990 Les Tendres Années, 69-75 - N/A
    1990 Master Serie 2 - 300 000
    1990 Ses Premiers Succès, Coffret Vol 1-3 - N/A
    1990 Ses Premiers Succès, Vol 1 - N/A
    1990 Ses Premiers Succès, Vol 2 - N/A
    1990 Ses Premiers Succès, Vol 3 - N/A
    1991 30 Grands Succès - N/A
    1991 Ça ne change pas un homme - 350 000
    1991 Coffret CD Virgin Megastore - 5 000
    1991 Dans La Chaleur De Bercy - 275 000
    1991 Exclusivité Club Dial: C'Est Fini Miss Molly - N/A
    1991 Exclusivité Club Dial: D'Aujourd'hui 1972-1989 - N/A
    1991 Exclusivité Club Dial: D'Hier 1961-1971 - N/A
    1992 Master Serie 1 & 2 - 200 000
    1993 Bercy 92 - 250 000
    1993 Intégrale - 8 000
    1993 Parc des Princes - 500 000
    1994 A La Cigale - N/A
    1994 Rough Town - 225 000
    1995 Lorada - 725 000
    1995 Paroles d'Hommes (Rock 'N Roll + Gang) - 600 000
    1996 Destination Vegas - 200 000
    1996 Lorada Tour - 475 000
    1997 Anthologie 1 - 150 000
    1997 Anthologie 2 - 100 000
    1997 Anthologie 3 - 100 000
    1998 Anthologie 1975-1984 - 100 000
    1998 Anthologie 1985-1997 - 200 000
    1998 Ce que je sais - 660 000
    1998 Master Serie 3 - 100 000
    1999 Ballades Et Mots D'Amour - 500 000
    1999 Hallyday Par Johnny: Les Inédits - 40 000
    1999 Johnny Allume Le Feu: Stade De France 98 - 450 000
    1999 Sang pour sang - 1 950 000
    2000 100% Johnny, Live A La Tour Eiffel - 350 000
    2000 Mes Jeunes Années - 50 000
    2000 Nashville 84 - 25 000
    2000 Olympia 2000 - 140 000
    2000 Talents Du Siècle 1 - 100 000
    2000 Talents Du Siècle 2 - 100 000
    2000 Talents Du Siècle 3 - 100 000
    2000 Talents Du Siècle 4 - 100 000
    2002 À la vie, à la mort ! - 1 550 000
    2003 Intégrale Live 2003 - N/A
    2003 Les 100 Plus Grandes Chansons De Johnny - 280 000
    2003 Les Années Vogues - 100 000
    2003 Parc des Princes 2003 - 290 000
    2003 Succès Garantis - 250 000
    2004 Long Box 1: L'Idole Des Jeunes - 20 000
    2004 Long Box 2: Rock 'N Roll Man - 5 000
    2004 Long Box 3: Hallyday Attitude - 5 000
    2004 Tendres Années 60 - N/A
    2005 Ma Vérité - 830 000
    2006 Flashback Tour Live - 275 000
    2006 Jean Philippe - 15 000
    2006 Les 100 Plus Grandes Chansons De Johnny 2 - 140 000
    2006 Les Indispensables - N/A
    2006 Souvenirs, Souvenirs 5CD - 10 000
    2006 Talents 1 - 5 000
    2006 Talents 2 - 5 000
    2006 Talents 3 - 5 000
    2006 The Nashville Sessions 62 - N/A
    2007 Go, Johnny, Go - N/A
    2007 In Italiano - 10 000
    2007 La Cigale - 50 000
    2007 Le Cœur d'un homme - 575 000
    2007 Les 50 Plus Belles Ballades - 10 000
    2007 Les 50 Plus Grands Rocks - 10 000
    2007 Prestige: Johnny Hallyday - 25 000
    2008 Black Es Noir - 5 000
    2008 Ça ne finira jamais - 480 000
    2008 Live At Montreux 88 - 20 000
    2008 Triple Best Of - 90 000
    2009 Coffret 10 EP: 1961-1962 - 2 000
    2009 Coffret 10 EP: 1963-1964 - 2 000
    2009 Faces A Faces - 10 000
    2009 Les #1 de Johnny Hallyday - 55 000
    2009 Tour 66: Stade De France 2009 - 275 000

    Le total de ces albums est de 36,657,000 albums vendus.
     
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  15. MJD

    MJD Well-Known Member

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    As for the news of his passing, as a French I very often mocked Hallyday. I give him very little credit artistically speaking, although his singing is great and powerful and his charisma impossible to contest. I still feel bad for his loss quite simply because he was obviously a nice guy and because I can only be sad about something that will affect negatively so many people.

    Having said that, I feel the need to explain what he is for France. I studied deeply record sales and impact of various similar artists from other countries (Elvis, James Last, Cliff Richard, John Farnham, Luis Miguel, Roberto Carlos, Tony Carreira, etc) and what I can say is that Hallyday has no comparison. We often say that he is the "French Elvis", it's untrue, he is much bigger for France than Elvis was for the US. You need to pile together the catalog of Elvis, then Bruce Springsteen, then Garth Brooks to get something similar to Hallyday's catalog in terms of comprehensive popularity. Elvis has been the songbook of America during 22 years, Hallyday has been the one of France for 57 years. French market has been historically about half of the UK's market, yet he sold way, way more albums and way more singles than the Beatles in the UK. If we weight their respective results as per their market, Hallyday out-performed the Beatles by about 4 to 1.

    Obviously, I'm not trying to put down Elvis or the Beatles - far from that - just trying to illustrate how insanely massive the figure of Johnny Hallyday is/was in France.
     
  16. patel kismet

    patel kismet Well-Known Member

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    Belle offrande ! Merci
     
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  17. John B Good

    John B Good Forum Hall Of Fame

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    RIP. Although I only know of him by name, this thread will lead me to listen to the tracks that have been posted here.

    However he was very popular in Quebec and Celine Dion among others has expressed condolences

    'Greatest rock star you never heard of' dead at 74
     
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  18. johnnyyen

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    He certainly was. I lived in Switzerland for a year, and he was practically everywhere; on magazine front covers, in record shops, and on radio and television. Just because he barely made a ripple in the UK doesn’t mean he wasn’t huge in the rest of Europe, especially in francophone countries.
     
  19. MJD

    MJD Well-Known Member

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    People are barely leaving work here and the impact is already surreal. Below is the current iTunes in France:

    France

    iTunes:
    1. Je te promets
    2. L'envie
    3. Quelque chose de Tennessee
    4. Requiem pour un fou
    5. Diego libre dans sa tête
    6. Que je t'aime
    7. Sang Pour Sang
    8. Laura
    9. Marie
    10. Gabrielle
    11. Le pénitencier
    12. Vivre pour le meilleur
    13. Vivre Pour Le Meilleur
    14. J'ai oublié de vivre
    15. L'envie
    16. Allumer Le Feu
    18. J'oublierai ton nom
    20. L'hymne à l'amour
    21. Retiens la nuit
    23. La musique que j'aime
    24. Ma gueule
    28. Allumer le feu
    29. Que je t'aime
    31. Je Te Promets
    32. Noir c'est noir
    35. Quelque chose de Tennessee
    38. Un jour viendra
    39. Derrière l'amour
    42. Le chanteur abandonné
    44. J'ai un problème
    46. L'idole des jeunes
    47. De l'Amour
    51. Mon plus beau Noël
    53. Oh ma jolie Sarah
    54. Requiem pour un fou
    57. Elle m'oublie
    59. Requiem Pour Un Fou
    63. Je te promets
    72. Pour moi la vie va commencer
    75. Diego Libre Dans Sa Tête
    78. Laura
    85. J'ai Oublié De Vivre
    89. Un Jour Viendra
    90. L'envie
    92. J'oublierai Ton Nom
    93. Diego Libre Dans Sa Tête
    95. Retiens La Nuit
    96. Que Je T'aime
    97. Marie
    107. L'hymne À L'amour
    110. Le bon temps du Rock and Roll
    111. L'envie
    113. Gabrielle
    119. Mirador
    125. Diego
    127. Marie
    131. Le Pénitencier
    133. Derrière L'amour
    135. Allumer le feu
    144. Vivre Pour Le Meilleur
    151. Diego, libre dans sa tête
    152. Allumer Le Feu
    153. Gabrielle
    154. Diego
    155. Ce que je sais
    156. Retiens la nuit
    158. L'attente
    165. L'envie
    166. Je Te Promets
    167. Que je t'aime
    170. 20 Ans
    176. Requiem Pour Un Fou
    178. Le Chanteur Abandonné
    179. Laura
    180. Requiem pour un fou
    185. Ne Me Quitte Pas
    186. Toute la musique que j'aime
    187. Quelque chose de Tennessee
     
  20. feinstei9415

    feinstei9415 Forum Resident

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    My first exposure to French music (his EP "Amour Dete" on the Phillips label) and one that has lasted my entire life. I have many of his very expensively imported LP's and EP's, and loved his work in English as well. I thrilled growing up to the "golden couple" Johnny Hallyday and Sylvie Vartan (who, in response to the previous comments about Bulgaria) was born in Bulgaria). RIP Mr. Hallyday!





    BTW: He spoke almost perfect English -- check out this interview....

    Johnny Hallyday Interview In English
     
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  21. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Forum Resident

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    Again, not true. I think you are thinking of Tom Waits' voice. No, Hallyday had an absolutely colossal baritone voice. Nothing to do with him being croaky or anything. He also put a lot of tenderness into love songs, etc.
    Not a lot of vocal range, but he could really sing. Remember that he half-spoke many lyrics rather than sticking with the sheer musicality of the song and that was very effective.
     
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  22. Jackson

    Jackson Forum Resident

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    That is just superb, one of the best duets i’ve ever heard, THANKS.
     
  23. lrpm

    lrpm Well-Known Member

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    This is so true. I lived one year in Paris (1992), and in my view he had already passed his prime time. However he was refered to all the time in tv and radio. When he scheduled some live shows in Paris it was BIG news... He had a huge following, never seen anything like that
     
  24. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Forum Resident

    Location:
    Little Britain
    Is in France. His passing is moarned/celebrated in France at the moment like nothing you've ever seen. It's comparable to the death of Lennon and the wave of emotion that that generated in the UK and USA (even though Hallyday's passing isn't a shocker like Lennon's was). It's enourmous.
    Talking of Lennon, Johnny's childhood was similar to John's in that he was abandonned by his father when he was very young and brought up by his aunt (just learnt that from the non-stop TV tributes).
     
  25. noahjld

    noahjld Forum Resident

    Very much "rock" imho, but I know what you mean.
     
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