Rolling Stones - Got LIVE If You Want It! The first Punk record?

IS The Rolling Stones - Got LIVE If You Want It! The First Punk Record?

 

Never thought of it as a punk record in any sense.

There were several before such as MONKs and THE SONICS, to name a few.

 

Wasn't that this????

 

UK EP Definitely, US LP is weak

 

No, the first punk record ever is Thomas Edison’s recording of Mary Had A Little Lamb. There's just so much raw energy, right down to the low-fi sound, out-of-tune vocals, and studio chatter.

 

It's post-punk, the first one is made 17 years earlier:

http://gizmodo.com/372994/earliest-audio-recording-resurrected-scares-the-genitals-off-us

 

For some, punk appears to be some scale by which all rock music is measured.
For me, it isn't and the Stones are not pre punk, post punk, neo punk, pseudo punk, etc.....

 

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/search.php?searchid=14016030

 

LOL! No, don't be silly.

 

Pointless . No

 

I guess you never heard Link Wray.

 

If your theory is based on how bad it sounds you may have a point

 

Brian Jones was pretty vacant on it.

 

Don't be discouraged. I kind of agree with you. With the exception of "Lady Jane", "I've Been Loving You Too Long" and "Time is on my Side", a bunch of tracks, played sloppy, loud and way too fast (total time of 33 minutes, including intros and applause). I don't hear a ton of difference between Got Live if you Want it, and the Ramones or the Cramps live.

 

I agree. The guys do make a din. It's so raucous and bonkers as the stones try and play to a riot of screaming girls. It's also poorly recorded and sounds a bit like tinny late 70s punk club music.

 

Uncle Dave Macon yelled "kill yourself!" on half his Vocalion sides in the 20s. Very nihilist.

So yeah - the first punk was a chin-whiskered mule-wagon driver from Tennessee.

Everyone who recorded after the depression was a poseur.

 

No

 

One could argue that Punk Music tended to have minimalistic production, and to be of lo-fi quality with relatively unpolished sound that is used in the mastering process.

Sounds like "Got LIVE If You Want It"

First maybe because it charted in Billboard at a peak of #6 in the US in 1967.

 

I can relate to this.

It was my first favorite Stones album, maybe the first I heard, and the energetic rawness and near thrashing caused major impact on my punk world.

So yeah, maybe it was !

 

Punk as a genre = minimalistic production, non-mainstream (at least at first), and a reaction to the perceived excesses of Classic Rock. Its very existence is based on that reaction and to push it back to the 60's completely changes the definition of the genre.

As such...no, I don't think this is a punk record. Wrong artist, wrong timeframe. You could argue that The Beatles in Hamburg could be a punk band if you alter the genre definition to just be "minimalistic garage rock".

 

I find punk to be extremely boring when it's being considered a genre of music. When it's an attitude, then let's talk. On that note, the Stones weren't the first "punks" - it had to be any one of the handful of African American musicians that brought blues to the white masses, taking heavy chances that could have affected them far beyond difference of music opinion. For that I thank them and want to listen to their "punk" music all day long.

 

This all kind of reminds me of how Keef describes John Lee Hooker as "heavy metal".

 

Substitute "hit parade pop" for "classic rock" and you've defined early rock'n'roll. Thus looking for the first punk record is an exercise in chasing one's tail.

 

Lady Jane is one hell of an angry punk song