Rolling Stones - "Slave" - long version?

Can anyone provide any info about why the version of "Slave" from Tattoo You is longer on the Virgin Records CD re-issue than on the original Rolling Stones Records CD? If memory serves, the first CD had the song's run time as approx 4:58, but on the re-issue it runs close to 6:30 or so. Are there any major differences between the two versions, or is the shorter track just an "edited" version? Thanks!

 

If memory serves, I believe the short version is an edited version of the same take as the long version. However, I can't be sure since I don't have the short version anymore in my collection.

 

IIRC, that's true. My original vinyl lists the time at 4:59.

 

Actually, the full performance of Slave, as recorded in 1975, lasts close to ten minutes. In 1981 the tape was dusted off, remixed and a saxophone overdub added. The unedited 1981 master runs 8:47. The track was eventually parred down to 4:59 for the release of Tattoo You. When the album was remastered in 1994, the wrong tape was pulled (at least I assume it was unintentional) and that is how we got the 6:32 version.

 

I was hoping that the reason the long version was used on the remaster was to finally restore Sonny Rollins' saxophone solo to its intended length.

 

I seem to remember reading something at the time (I think in ICE) that they used the longer version on purpose, along with a longer version of Luxury on It's Only Rock N' Roll. Of course, they could've pulled the wrong tape and just told everyone it was on purpose ...

 

How much longer is "Luxury"? I didn't know about this. I actually have a soft spot for the IORR album. Bought it the day it came out and played it a LOT.

 

Not sure how long it is on the original, but it's listed at 5 minutes on the remaster.

 

Me too...bought it in Oct. 74 and played it a lot. I really really like that record, it's just got such a great feel to it.

 

This thread made me pull it out and listen to it and once again, I was stunned at how fantastic Mick Taylor's guitar playing was. "Time Waits For No One" is a stone classic. I did notice "Luxury" was longer, but can't say how. I liked it better?!

My cd copy is one of the mini-lp sleeeve in a large jewel box deluxe doo-dads that came out a while ago. I have about 5 of them, tyhe SF has the zipper and Exile has the postcards, etc. Current masterings?

 

Stones mid 70s slump is better than most bands will ever be at their peak.

It feels like a Stones album should, looks and sounds like it too. Once this band is gone for good, then folks will give this album a better rap than it ever got before.

 

Indeed, even as a 16 year old, I loved this track. In fact, my 4 faves on the LP are this track, "If You Really Want to be My Friend," "Till the Next Goodbye" and "Fingerprint File". I also REALLY dig the reggae feel of Luxury. Jagger's voice sounds so different (in a really good way) on this LP (and GHS too). Really well produced record IMHO. Strong tracks, displaying a WIDE range of musical styles.

Yes, and I don't think you can do better on cd, though others disagree.

 

I agree. Can't believe people call GHS, IORR and B&B a "slump". Brilliant records, well produced and they capture that mid 70's feel exquisitely. Eclectic and diverse musically as well. Very easy to listen to all the way through.

Yup.

 

I was about the say the exact same thing.

Just look at the list of Stones classics that were produced during that period...

- Angie
- Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
- Ain't Too Proud to Beg
- It's Only Rock & Roll (But I Like It)
- Time Waits For No One
- Hot Stuff
- Fool to Cry

Lots of bands don't have that many hits in the course of their entire career! And then there's all those great "non-hit" songs from those 3 albums too...

 

Not to mention Star Star, If You Can't Rock Me, Dance Little Sister, Hot Stuff, Hand of Fate, Memory Motel and Crazy Mama...

 

Time Waits For No One is a classic Stones tune.

I always thought Tom Waits should have an LP called Tom Waits For No One.

A bad joke indeed.....

 

In all honesty, I don't think there's a bad song on GHS, IORR and B&B.

I enjoy each and everyone of those albums and have for years.

 

If you agree with the quality of the Stones output as expressed in the 9 posts preceeding this one, there can only be 2 conclusions made:

1. The Stones are (or at very least were througout most of their career) the greatest rock n' roll band in the world.

and

2. There was some very serious competition for our music dollars in the 70's.

In the end, I believe both to be true statements.

 

I agree. If the three albums between Exile and Some Girls constitute a "slump," it's a slump that most bands would kill to achieve.

You left out "Fingerprint File" and "Memory Motel."

 

As do I.

 

100% True. These albums achieve a level of brilliance that is staggering. I wish the Stones would devote more of their set-lists to these tracks. Sure, I know they pull out 1 or 2 now and then, but I am talking about an hour long set, a real groove, if you can dig it.

 

I remember when I first heard Tattoo You. It didn't leave my turntable for months. I played it day after day. I still love the album, I still have it on vinyl, and I have still not updated to CD yet!

 

I enjoy the Love You Live album because it features a lot of material from this period.

 

Those are the 3 Stones I albums I have never owned, in any format. I know the earlier stuff and the later stuff but except for whatever tracks rock radio played, I'm completely unfamiliar with them.