S-Video or Composite: which is better?

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by efhjr, May 23, 2004.

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  1. efhjr

    efhjr Idler Wheel Enthusiast Thread Starter

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    I just bought a new TV, and am wondering about video cables: is Composite better than S-Video? I can use either, and would love some advice before I plunk down some cash for quality cables.
     
  2. poweragemk

    poweragemk Old Member

    Location:
    CH
    Composite? One RCA cable? Nah, S-Video is better. Or do you mean component, which is still better than S-Video?
     
  3. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    I was told by many sources that component video was the best...
     
  4. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

    Location:
    South Plymouth, Ma
    S video has worked better for me in just about every case. Depends on the situation.
     
  5. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    In my situation, I can only do composite video or I can buy a Composite To S-Video adapter for now, but what I am willing to do is to wait until LCD TVs drop down in price even lower than they have dropped down to allow me to make a better investment for the future. My current settlement is composite video.
     
  6. peterC

    peterC Aussie Addict

    Location:
    sydney
    As am I. They'll have to get them up to at least 42 inches though.
     
  7. efhjr

    efhjr Idler Wheel Enthusiast Thread Starter

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    D'oh! Good catch -- yes, I meant component.

    Anyway, it looks like more people are saying component is better. Thanks for the input, folks.
     
  8. Paul Chang

    Paul Chang Forum Old Boy, Former Senior Member Has-Been

    It depends. If your TV's comb filter is better than your source's (DVD, VCR or LD player), use the composite (RCA). Otherwise, use the S-Video.
     
  9. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    I would not be able to afford a 42" TV due to my budget though.
     
  10. Kayaker

    Kayaker Senior Member

    Location:
    New Joisey Now
    I'm with Sckott on this one. I prefer s-video to component - but as he said it probably depends on the equipment/situation.
    I am looking forward to hooking up my DVI out on my universal when I get a DVI/HDMI compatable TV.
     
  11. R. Cat Conrad

    R. Cat Conrad Almost Famous

    Location:
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    If you have a progressive scan DVD player as your source, then component will almost always be better.

    :cheers:
    Cat
     
  12. Paul Chang

    Paul Chang Forum Old Boy, Former Senior Member Has-Been

    Exactly. And it makes no sense to use the S-Video if your source has component outputs.
     
  13. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden MichiGort Staff

    Location:
    Livonia, MI
    If you have any DVD player that does component out, it should always be better.

    The video signal has three components that your TV uses to display the image.

    Component video outputs the three components with no filtering required of your TV
    S-video outputs the luminance signal separately from the two color signals, which your TV's filters must separate.
    Composite video outputs a single signal which your TV's filters must separate into its three components.
    RF video outputs a radio frequency signal your TV's tuner must first de-modulate into a composite signal and then fliter into its three components.

    Since DVD's store video in component form, the minimum signal path soulution is to use the component outputs. Laserdiscs and standard VHS tapes are native composite video sources, however, so which input will look better is a function of whether your player or TV has better filters for separating the composite signals into their individual components.

    Regards,
     
  14. Michael St. Clair

    Michael St. Clair Forum Resident

    Location:
    Funkytown
    Always use component for DVD when you can.

    Always use S-Video on the following when you can:
    VHS
    S-VHS
    standard-def Digital Cable box
    standard-def Digital Satellite box

    With laserdisc or an analog cable box, it depends on whether or not the comb filter in your TV is better than the one in the component.

    I disagree with Ken's assessment that VHS is a native composite format. Most people do think this is the case. It is stored using a separated 'chroma under' method, same as S-VHS. Of course, most non-SVHS decks don't include an s-video out.
     
  15. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden MichiGort Staff

    Location:
    Livonia, MI
    Aaaahhh. My bad. Michael is correct. I haven't dissected a VCR in a while, and I was confusing my inputs and outputs.

    Regards,
     
  16. Pinknik

    Pinknik Senior Member

  17. Michael St. Clair

    Michael St. Clair Forum Resident

    Location:
    Funkytown
    Heck, I only wish I was as wrong as rarely as you are.
     
  18. BIG ED

    BIG ED Forum Resident

    Component WILL beat S.
    HOWEVER, you will HAVE to recalibrate your monitor too get the benefit of component over S. If you do not recalibrate, the benefit is minimal (if at all). Of coarse if you re-c for C, your other input's WILL 'suffer'.
    So............ S, if your using more than one input.
    Or............ C, if your prime (DVD, etc.) source is THE most important too U.
    Unless...... U can do video setup's for EACH input!!!
     
  19. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden MichiGort Staff

    Location:
    Livonia, MI
    Well, there are a few ways around this. One is if your TV has separate saveable video settings (like Sony TVs with "standard", "movie", "vivid", and/or "sports" settings). You can set one for S-video and one for component.

    On my 36" Sony WEGA, I made adjustments through the service menu that got my S-Video and Component video inputs in line with each other. I set the normal color and hue controls dead center and then calibrated each input to match via the service menu.

    Regards,
     
  20. nukevor

    nukevor Active Member

    Location:
    CA
  21. stypee

    stypee New Member

    Location:
    New York
    Unless you have a compatible television that has component input than it would be a great investment; those dam cables are expensive as hell. Fortunately I have a Toshiba set that gives me all options and I went with an S VIDEO cable. Have to say the picture is really, really gorgeous. I can't afford the component cables and was extremely pleased with the quality a 14.99 S cable gave me from Best Buy ;)
     
  22. R. Cat Conrad

    R. Cat Conrad Almost Famous

    Location:
    D/FW Metroplex
    If you DON'T have a compatible telivision, then indeed, the investment would be a waste, but if you DO have a compatible TV then the relative cost favors component over S-Video. In fact, dependent upon the kind of cables you choose the pricing runs the gamut.

    :cheers:
    Cat
     
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